Chinese grain causing more poison problems???

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Please don't delete this thread, it is meant more as a public service than a rant...

I saw where the same problem that hit the pet food industry is now turning up in feed for hogs. Probably next cattle. Some are being quaranteened. Watch what you eat. I'm paranoid of many things produced in countries where standards are much lower than ours.

I thought America is the breadbasket. Why do we have to buy grains from China? Its hard to believe that they can do it cheaper than we can. They don't have enough plantable land as it is if I understand some of the stuff I've seen. I guess after all the lawsuits settle over the petfood industry, we'll see just how much it saved the company.

Did anyone else notice that it took a while before they acknowledged the problem and disseminated the alerts? I don't think they wanted the public to know that most brands are made at the same place. I'm talking from Ole' Roy to the high end brands. I'm glad I don't have a dead or sick pet, I'd be steaming. Watch what you eat.

It doesn't take a hair to fall for other nations to cut off our ability to sell them beef and other goods. Where's our politicians when we need them?
It's not like the trade balance isn't bad enough. Ok, I ranted too.

 

[scott_vt]

Why do we have to buy grains from China? Its hard to believe that they can do it cheaper than we can.

Afternoon Kyle,
Well, probably for the same reason that we sent the best part of our entire manufacturing base over there ! The same reason that we sent all our foundries over there ! The list just goes on and on, its just the sad truth unfortunately ! I wish there was a way to change it, but it appears this whole process is in motion with no way to slow it down !

 

[mjarrels]

It is my understanding that the recalled pet foods were being fed to the hogs rather than be destroyed.

"China is not our friend"

mark

 

[thcri]

Why do we have to buy grains from China? Its hard to believe that they can do it cheaper than we can.

Pretty much the same reasons as what Scott said. And don't see it changing for a long time. My personal opinion is labor cost. We have escolated our labor costs so much higher than China. We have manufactures here in the US that ships product out just to have it assembled and brought back in the US.

murph

 

[riptides]

It is a resource use issue. Think about it. Let someone else burn their resources producing stuff, pretty soon something runs out. You step in with bigger/badder/insert favorite next gen stuff here.


Another side to the story - America does a h o r r i b l e job at tracking and protecting its food stores and sources. So it is our own fault.

-Mike Z.

 

[livincountry]

I heard quite some time ago that China is using pesticides and herbicides that we outlawed years and years ago. They also have no laws regarding worker safety, polution controls, etc. This year they will produce more greenhouse gases than the US and yet we get the bad press. I guess it's because we have a conscious and they could care less about the environment or their people (or ours for that matter).

The next few years will be interesting to say the least.

 

[dmccarty]

I have been worried about this for the last six months or so.

I have been going to two asian markets to buy certain foods. We like Edamae which is just green soybeans. One market I go to has some really good prices and alot of their food is from China. The other market is a small privately owned Japanese store. Many of their products are also from China.

I can buy a one pound bag of Edamae in the Asian market for something like $1.30. The little Japanese store is a bit under $2. I can go to a local market that is $3 for one pound for soybeans from California. The idea that a bag of FROZEN soybeans can be shipped across the Pacific to the east coast of the US cheaper than US grown is shocking. Its soybeans for goodness sake. My wife's family grows them on their farm in eastern NC!

I have stopped buying the cheaper stuff and HOPE that the Japanese packages of the Chinese soybeans are safe...

There are other products I'm buying that have the same issues.

I have some soybeans I'm going to plant this afternoon.

Later,
Dan

 

[livincountry]

Dan, are these special soybeans you're buying? I have about 200 acres behind me that will be in beans this year

Doubt they are the same. I eat edamame all the time...they look kinda like lima beans compared to the round soybeans or maybe they are just dried up?

Tonight I'm getting into the chicken raising hobby. Should be fun!

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Well, probably for the same reason that we sent the best part of our entire manufacturing base over there ! The same reason that we sent all our foundries over there ! The list just goes on and on, its just the sad truth unfortunately ! I wish there was a way to change it, but it appears this whole process is in motion with no way to slow it down !

Don't get me started on this. I've worked in manufacturing for 25 years. I don't won't to get political.

In the future, when historians look back at the facts and that we let our manufacturing base waste away, I wonder what term they'll coin for this "era". Pun intended... The chinese have us in their financial reigns. Some companies have found that the $$$ saved building their parts abroad are minimized when time lost and descrepant parts are factored in.

 

[coffeeman]

In the future, when historians look back at the facts and that we let our manufacturing base waste away, I wonder what term they'll coin for this "era". Pun intended... The chinese have us in their financial reigns. Some companies have found that the $$$ saved building their parts abroad are minimized when time lost and descrepant parts are factored in.

Ya know? It's a throw away world. Buy it cheap and pitch instead of fixing. Maybe the time has come to bring back the YUGO?

Cheers