ck20hst broke hydro trans tonight

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The advantages of a foot clutch in an HST tractor is that you have better control of the PTO,
where you can slip the clutch a bit so the PTO engages slowly. The foot clutch also allows
for a very simple safety start interlock system: one switch. Conversely, HST CUTs with
an electric PTO have an abrupt engagement, as they are ON or OFF. Electric
brakes are used with electric PTOs, which can be a weak point in the system.

My LS has an electric engagement (my ZTR as well), and I just reduce RPM when engaging the PTO, and it seems very smooth.
 
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Joe, Just did a quick check, Bobcat Parts warehouse in Chicago has both shafts & the coupler in stock. Same as CT120/122. Contact a Bobcat dealer and order from them.

Thanks doxie, appreciate you checking for me. I will talk to Service Mgr. tomorrow. Joe
 
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Thanks doxie, appreciate you checking for me. I will talk to Service Mgr. tomorrow. Joe

update 6/24/14 talked to local Bobcat parts mgr. he tracked down parts. As you said all available in depot in Chicago. He kindly forwarded parts list to me and to my service mgr., who is pressing Kioti to tell us if parts are compatible,( of course part numbers are different.) Bobcat re-engineered many parts for their models, so we're assuming that Kioti has incorporated these improvements across both lines.
service mgr. also found out the hydro input or main shaft is available, still need answers on clutch and coupling.
 
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7/13/14 still waiting for parts, somewhere between Rochester NY and So. Korea. Did get the hydro input shaft in last week, Kioti finally told Svc.Mgr. that the hydro shaft was only available as a rebuild kit with gaskets bearings etc. Of course it would be nice if they had a a cross reference in the parts system to tell you that!!
Still no response from factory on cross over of Bobcat to Kioti, obviously not real interested in helping customers. But what can you expect when the director of parts and engineering tells my Svc.Mgr that Kioti(Daedong) has only made 30hp and up tractors for Bobcat!! I wonder where Bobcat got all those CT122's I've seen at dealers.
Maybe have parts by end of month!

So seriously considering trade for a new CK2510, loader cab front snow blower. Anybody have any pro's or con's yet?
 
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7/17/14 my parts have left Korea!!!!!! Ho Raaaaa!! Now let's hope they're going air or something faster than a slow boat from China.

More news,,, Kioti engineering told dealer that yes I can use the mounting brackets from the CK20 on the CK2510 so I can keep my Rhino 65A backhoe. Rhino hasn't been helpful, just said they don't support that model anymore it's discontinued.
 
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So seriously considering trade for a new CK2510, loader cab front snow blower. Anybody have any pro's or con's yet?

I have a CK2510 but only 45 hrs on it so far. Most of that has been the back hoe (Kioti KB2465). It's a powerful digger (BH). The FEL isn't a great digger but a tooth bar may help that. Very rocky here. It's my first tractor so I don't have anything to compare it to, but I'm loving it. Physically the same size as a CK20, but has the CK27 engine (detuned I guess to 24.5 hp) and more GPM Hydo pump. It'll also have more PTO HP.

I've read here that people say the hp is actually more than the rated 24.5; that Kioti under-rated it to avoid Tier 4 standards. I Don't Know anything factual about that.

Good Luck. BTW mine was poorly set up by the dealer, but Kioti (finally) straightened everything out at no cost to me.
 

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