Buying Advice CK35HST Pricing and Loader Choice

molechaser · Mar 22, 2011

I have narrowed down my tractor choices and the Kioti CK35HST is on the top of my list. I have spent lots of time reading past posts and appreciate all the advise and feedback that is available here.

The dealer has a Woods LC102 loader that I can swap for the Kioti loader at the same price. The specs on the Woods look really good but the downside is it has been sitting on the lot for at least a couple years. The paint is extremely faded with a range of colors from orange to light orange to pink. The dealer is going to disassemble the loader and paint it with spray cans from Woods and it would still have the 2 year new warranty.

So the question is which loader would you choose? Does the price of $16,915 for the tractor and loader sound reasonable? The dealer is also getting a KB2365 backhoe about 5 years old which he can include for $3500 + $600 for remote hydraulic kit. Any opinions on this backhoe and price?

Gil Case · Mar 22, 2011

Not sure about the FEL, but that BH is way too small for that tractor, the 35 uses an 8.5 foot BH and the 2365 is the old 6.5 foot made for the CK20. Price is not too bad since a new one will run 6-7 grand.

wallace · Mar 22, 2011

Is this tractor brand new?
Woods loader?? Are you taking advantage of the free loader program (Kioti loader only)?
Or are you financing the package with Kiotis incentive fianancing programs?
Does the 2365 (new-used?)come with a warranty?

molechaser · Mar 22, 2011

The tractor is new and priced based on the free loader program so no financing incentives. The Woods loader can be swapped out for the Kioti loader at the same cost and is new (or at least unused) but been sitting in the sun for quite a while.

The KB2365 is from a prior customer of the dealer who sold his Kioti tractor and the buyer did not want the backhoe. The dealer is buying it back. It is 5+ years old and I have not seen the condition yet. There would be no warranty on this.

wallace · Mar 22, 2011

Well....I am going to think out loud here...
If I was in your shoes I would look at adding a couple thousand and get all new.
I'm not sure what Kiotis prices are right now but I know what you could but a new CAT for.
Did you price out new to see how much of a savings your getting?
One other quick question...Did either loader offered have a quick tach bucket?

molechaser · Mar 22, 2011

It is hard to justify the price of a new backhoe which was why I was considering the used one. Both loaders are quick attach. I think if I go with the CK35 I should keep the Kioti loader knowing everything is new. The Woods loader after sitting around for a few years outside should probably be discounted as used.

wallace · Mar 22, 2011

The LC 102 loader is definitely a much better loader than the KL130 and it also carries a 2 year warranty.
But the faded paint may not be appealing.
I had a woods loader that we sent out and had powder coated orange and it looked great!
Spray bombs just ain't going to cut it in my opinion.

I added up the numbers of what you posted and like I said before it may just be worth your while to go all new.

For what its worth....you may want to research some of the past postings on the 23 series backhoes. They have had their issues.
The newer 24 series seem to be 10 times better.

VictorW · Mar 22, 2011

I have the CK30hst and the Kioti KB2375. I'm not sure what your uses for the bh would be but I wouldn't want any smaller than my 7.5 footer. And being that the bh has no warranty, you could get it home and start springing a leak in the controls which sometimes can be costly just for parts. If you really want that bh, tell the dealer you'd like to give it a try first and do a lilttle digging to see how it holds up. One rear remote for $600 seems a little expensive.