Concrete project PICs
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Now my tractor has a home of it's own. All in all the project went very smooth. One thing I forgot to do before I started pouring was to place plastic against the vinyl siding. Needless to say, concrete splashed up onto the siding and it took me a long time to remove it a few days later. Not to mention alot of elbow grease.
Thanks,
Doug
Thanks,
Doug
RobertN
Super Member
Next time wet down the siding. If it is damp when you pour, the mud will not stick as bad, and is easily cleaned up with a semi soft brush.
Don't know how much the buggy ran to rent. We tend to get a pump in for tight access stuff like that, if it is over three yards. Otherwise, out come the wheel barrows.
Don't know how much the buggy ran to rent. We tend to get a pump in for tight access stuff like that, if it is over three yards. Otherwise, out come the wheel barrows.
em14
Platinum Member
Doug,
It looks nice ... you did a good job!
Leo
It looks nice ... you did a good job!
Leo
Junkman
Super Member
Looks great...... have you considered a career change!!!!!!..... What do they charge to rent equipment like that? delivered???
wroughtn_harv
Super Member
Ahhhhhhh yes, the concrete buggy. I know her well. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I put in over sixty yards with one of those. The closest we could get a concrete truck was four hundred feet from the pour. Two hundred and fifty feet of that was exposed aggregate drive. About half the rest was comparable to an off road race course.
The way you make the puppy move is you squeeze that handle on the bar that looks like it might be a brake. That's sort of a safety device. When you catch a bump and the thing hangs a hard ninety and throws you off. It stops. Your hand is no longer squeezing the go bar. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The first time we did forty three yards. It like to have killed me. But after watching one of the guys almost lose a load on that beautiful driveway I grinned and did it, with gritted teeth I did it.
In a perverted masochistic way it was fun. The run back empty was not too much trouble. But the ride down with all that weight on the front drive wheels, that was exhausting.
Did I mention it was the summer time and that I kept fighting cramps in the right arm.
Another thing I recall with some kind of fondness, sorta like the fondness of recalling war experiences. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif You turn the handlebars right to go left. But if you want to go right then you have to remember to turn left. That's because the handlebars is attached via gear drive dead on to the pair of wheels under you. If the wheels were in front it'd be like guiding a bicycle, left to go left, right to right. But since they're at the back you turn left and hold on because you're hanging a rightie.
Speed was fun too with that baby. I had the pucker string tighter than Jim's hat band every time I had a load. If you weren't holding on for dear life and you hit any kind of bump, rice from a wedding six years ago kind of bump even, the steering wheels might hiccup a bit. Their camber, castor, angle of dangle, too much too little tire pressure, all that came together just wrong, perfectly wrong. Throw you off the buggy on your butt perfectly wrong.
Please bear in mind that I've tried to present my case in a manner to reflect positively on the buggy.
I put in over sixty yards with one of those. The closest we could get a concrete truck was four hundred feet from the pour. Two hundred and fifty feet of that was exposed aggregate drive. About half the rest was comparable to an off road race course.
The way you make the puppy move is you squeeze that handle on the bar that looks like it might be a brake. That's sort of a safety device. When you catch a bump and the thing hangs a hard ninety and throws you off. It stops. Your hand is no longer squeezing the go bar. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The first time we did forty three yards. It like to have killed me. But after watching one of the guys almost lose a load on that beautiful driveway I grinned and did it, with gritted teeth I did it.
In a perverted masochistic way it was fun. The run back empty was not too much trouble. But the ride down with all that weight on the front drive wheels, that was exhausting.
Did I mention it was the summer time and that I kept fighting cramps in the right arm.
Another thing I recall with some kind of fondness, sorta like the fondness of recalling war experiences. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif You turn the handlebars right to go left. But if you want to go right then you have to remember to turn left. That's because the handlebars is attached via gear drive dead on to the pair of wheels under you. If the wheels were in front it'd be like guiding a bicycle, left to go left, right to right. But since they're at the back you turn left and hold on because you're hanging a rightie.
Speed was fun too with that baby. I had the pucker string tighter than Jim's hat band every time I had a load. If you weren't holding on for dear life and you hit any kind of bump, rice from a wedding six years ago kind of bump even, the steering wheels might hiccup a bit. Their camber, castor, angle of dangle, too much too little tire pressure, all that came together just wrong, perfectly wrong. Throw you off the buggy on your butt perfectly wrong.
Please bear in mind that I've tried to present my case in a manner to reflect positively on the buggy.
Slamfire
Veteran Member
When going slow on a two wheeled vehicle you do turn right to go right. At speed though, you have much better control by pushing on the bar in the direction you want to go. Precession of the front wheel makes the bike lean. Not too important on a bicycle, but a whole lot easier on a hog. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
bmac
Veteran Member
<font color="blue"> When you catch a bump and the thing hangs a hard ninety and throws you off. It stops. Your hand is no longer squeezing the go bar. </font>
Harv,
Until you posted this, I hesitated to relate my one and only experience with a concrete buggy. Now that I've seen that this kind of thing has happened to others.... well let's just say that my embarassment level has dropped a notch or two.
I was pouring a little slab for a patio on the back of my house. Didn't think I wanted the truck driving across my lawn, so I had the buggy on hand to move the concrete from the street to my back yard. As it turned out, we decided to accept a few ruts in the lawn for a faster pour so I didn't need the buggy after all.
That doesn't mean I didn't drive it (or try to drive it). Yes, it threw me off. No, I didn't let go. Actually, I tightend my grip to keep it from getting away from me. You see where I am going here. Felt like a fool runing along side of this crazy thing going around in circles. Centrifigul force working against me as I tried to remount. Instinct telling me to hold on. Common sense abandoned me the second it did its hard turn to the left. The idea of releasing the throttle thingy just didn't occur to me. Eventually got back on, straightened it out and brought my chariot to a safe stop. Three years later my now 12 year old son still reminds me of the concrete buggy demonstration I provided him and several neighbors. Something I would just as soon forget.
Harv,
Until you posted this, I hesitated to relate my one and only experience with a concrete buggy. Now that I've seen that this kind of thing has happened to others.... well let's just say that my embarassment level has dropped a notch or two.
I was pouring a little slab for a patio on the back of my house. Didn't think I wanted the truck driving across my lawn, so I had the buggy on hand to move the concrete from the street to my back yard. As it turned out, we decided to accept a few ruts in the lawn for a faster pour so I didn't need the buggy after all.
That doesn't mean I didn't drive it (or try to drive it). Yes, it threw me off. No, I didn't let go. Actually, I tightend my grip to keep it from getting away from me. You see where I am going here. Felt like a fool runing along side of this crazy thing going around in circles. Centrifigul force working against me as I tried to remount. Instinct telling me to hold on. Common sense abandoned me the second it did its hard turn to the left. The idea of releasing the throttle thingy just didn't occur to me. Eventually got back on, straightened it out and brought my chariot to a safe stop. Three years later my now 12 year old son still reminds me of the concrete buggy demonstration I provided him and several neighbors. Something I would just as soon forget.
Junkman,
The cost of renting the buggy was $91/day. That included tax, insurance, fuel and trailer. I picked up the buggy and transported it myself with my V6 Ford pick-up. I don't know what the delivery cost would be but the unit isn't very heavy. So if you have a 2" ball, hitch and 4 wire harness you're all set to go.
I considered using a pump truck but the cost was very expensive. That's because in our area the concrete companies do not offer pumping. You need to contact another company that offers pumping. Thier cost was a min. of $200 bucks plus the priming of the pump is another logistical problem.
The buggy was very easy to operate once you understand the left/right thing. We had 3 people working the concrete. One operating the buggy and 2 moving and screeding the concrete. It took about 40 min. to move 3 yards 150ft. Most of that time the buggy operator (my brother) waited for us to move and screed the concrete. After the concrete was moved, we spent another hour floating and finishing the edge. Then once it set-up a little I broom finished the top.
Thanks,
Doug
The cost of renting the buggy was $91/day. That included tax, insurance, fuel and trailer. I picked up the buggy and transported it myself with my V6 Ford pick-up. I don't know what the delivery cost would be but the unit isn't very heavy. So if you have a 2" ball, hitch and 4 wire harness you're all set to go.
I considered using a pump truck but the cost was very expensive. That's because in our area the concrete companies do not offer pumping. You need to contact another company that offers pumping. Thier cost was a min. of $200 bucks plus the priming of the pump is another logistical problem.
The buggy was very easy to operate once you understand the left/right thing. We had 3 people working the concrete. One operating the buggy and 2 moving and screeding the concrete. It took about 40 min. to move 3 yards 150ft. Most of that time the buggy operator (my brother) waited for us to move and screed the concrete. After the concrete was moved, we spent another hour floating and finishing the edge. Then once it set-up a little I broom finished the top.
Thanks,
Doug
wroughtn_harv
Super Member
The concrete buggy is a great tool. They hold a yard or close to it each load. The dump is via a hydraulic system. And they don't splash much and their tendancy to rut isn't near what the average tractor does.
Your typical FEL on a CUT can haul half a wheelbarrow's worth per trip without losing half of it along the way. Even a one and a quarter yard big FEL, Cat 416--Ford 555, etc can haul only a fraction of their capacity.
The other thing is manueverbility and working in close quarters. The buggy can get in small places usually only accessible to wheelbarrows.
The buggy wins hands down in a haul concrete with FEL's.
Of course this bucket I've made and use is the best of both worlds.
I'll use it today setting posts. I've also got to go look at a job for a pier drilling company. The job's location restricts using anything but a pump truck. Unless of course they have me drill the piers with my tractor and haul in the concrete for them too. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I sell these to local concrete contractors by the way. What is interesting is I'm talking to a dairy right now about making them a couple of these with off to the side spouts. They think it might be the cat's meow for feeding calves.
Your typical FEL on a CUT can haul half a wheelbarrow's worth per trip without losing half of it along the way. Even a one and a quarter yard big FEL, Cat 416--Ford 555, etc can haul only a fraction of their capacity.
The other thing is manueverbility and working in close quarters. The buggy can get in small places usually only accessible to wheelbarrows.
The buggy wins hands down in a haul concrete with FEL's.
Of course this bucket I've made and use is the best of both worlds.
I'll use it today setting posts. I've also got to go look at a job for a pier drilling company. The job's location restricts using anything but a pump truck. Unless of course they have me drill the piers with my tractor and haul in the concrete for them too. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I sell these to local concrete contractors by the way. What is interesting is I'm talking to a dairy right now about making them a couple of these with off to the side spouts. They think it might be the cat's meow for feeding calves.
Mark,
I considered using the FEL. But after careful consideration I decided to rent the buggy. I almost used the FEL and at the last minute I changed my mind. This was due to having rain for 3 days straight before the pour was going to happen. I thought the lawn was too soft to run the tractor over it 10-12 times.
Doug
I considered using the FEL. But after careful consideration I decided to rent the buggy. I almost used the FEL and at the last minute I changed my mind. This was due to having rain for 3 days straight before the pour was going to happen. I thought the lawn was too soft to run the tractor over it 10-12 times.
Doug
dieselsmoke1
Platinum Member
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( this bucket I've made and use[/url] is the best of both worlds.)</font>
NICE!
Would you change anything about the bucket design if starting over?
NICE!
Would you change anything about the bucket design if starting over?
wroughtn_harv
Super Member
<font color="blue">Would you change anything about the bucket design if starting over?</font>
I got real lucky on the design first time out. I've sold one to a guy who did one that he thought was like mine. His didn't work worth a flip.
Here's the points I thought important.
1. Keep the weight as close to the tractor as possible.
2. Put an anti splash lip around the top.
3. Have the outlet higher than the splash lip when bucket is level.
Mine is a third of a yard capacity. I make and sell a half yard capacity for the guys who have larger skid loaders.
It's finer than frog hair when it's needed.
I got real lucky on the design first time out. I've sold one to a guy who did one that he thought was like mine. His didn't work worth a flip.
Here's the points I thought important.
1. Keep the weight as close to the tractor as possible.
2. Put an anti splash lip around the top.
3. Have the outlet higher than the splash lip when bucket is level.
Mine is a third of a yard capacity. I make and sell a half yard capacity for the guys who have larger skid loaders.
It's finer than frog hair when it's needed.
Streetcar
Veteran Member
Sealing would be with silene, for table top ,can get at HD. The other sealing would be when you placed concrete to prevent shrinkage cracks in fresh concrete. It is more of a curing situation
