corrosion or silt in radiator?

   / corrosion or silt in radiator? #1  

Ginormous

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I've been working on flushing out my radiator, and there was a lot of really fine, reddish-tan junk in there. I heard that the Japanese farmers were in the habit of filling their radiators with water from the rice fields that had a lot of silt in it -- not sure if that's true or not. I'm curious, does anyone knew if this is normal corrosion or if it might be silt?

ps. Cleaning out my radiator resulted in a leak in the drain hose. The hose had apparently been filled with so much much junk that it didn't leak... until I cleaned it out. :D
 
   / corrosion or silt in radiator? #2  
Sounds like typical rust/scale from the block. Nothing to really worry about in my book.

I flushed my radiators/cooling systems on both my tractors when I bought and all kinds of crap came out of them. Amazing how some can let that slide.
 
   / corrosion or silt in radiator? #3  
You mind sharing the process to take to flush the radiator?, never done this but have ben wanting to. By flush just using a hose pipe?
 
   / corrosion or silt in radiator? #4  
bottom corner of most raidators, there is a threaded connection. with a little thumb valve you unscrew, to let water/antifreeze mix to drain out.

remember antifreeze = poison to animals. and the antifreeze taste sweet to animals. so it is important you do not allow any sort of puddles to form up / be run onto the ground,

the little threaded connection on drain port allows you to connect a hose to drain port. and run hose to a 5 gallon bucket or oil catch pan.

most of my stuff vehicles to tractors. not placing a hose on drain port. normally results in water/antifreeze mix going all over the place (sub frame, belts, etc...) making a large wet mess.

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i generally start with a cold vehicle/tractor.

setup drain hose and catch pan or bucket.
get a garden hose ready,
make sure i have (antifreeze for refilling, and if need be anti scaling mix to add into the antifreeze/water mix when all done)

i generally drain everything out of radiator. then turn on garden hose, and let it run till everything runs clear out drain port. then plug drain and refill with water.

turn on vehicle/tractor, and set to a **high idle** to allow engine to warm up quicker but also to a point were the "thermostat" will open up. if you keep eye on engine temp gauge i generally can see a temperature swing, when thermostat first opens up. once i see the temp change, i will wait for a few minutes. then shut down tractor/vehicle.

drain radiator, and flush with clean water till drain port becomes clear. then pending on things i might repeat above. that or refill with water/antifreeze mix, and if needed anti scaling additive. ((if i do need to repeat, pending on how hot things are, i might let the tractor/vehicle set and cool down before draining the radiator))

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p.s. to note it, i generally use pure antifreeze vs the 50/50 already premix antifreeze. with above doings. so i can do a better rough adding of antifreeze and water, to get a 50/50 mix after all said and done.
 
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I havent drained my tractor radiator; its still clean; but long ago my father had a "70's Gremlin X" that broke a hose that he fixed and filled with water; and it became a silty rusty mess colour that looked like mud when drained and stained our kids plastic 6' swimming pool :mad: ... :D ...
 
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I havent drained my tractor radiator; its still clean; but long ago my father had a "70's Gremlin X" that broke a hose that he fixed and filled with water; and it became a silty rusty mess colour that looked like mud when drained and stained our kids plastic 6' swimming pool :mad: ... :D ...

are you sure? all resviors / fill cap areas. it might look clean. and most does look clean. but once you open up those drain ports. i be willing to bet, it would be a different story. at least that is my experience.

stuff tends to settle or rather sink out of the water/antifreeze mix, down into low spots were there is little circulation.
 
   / corrosion or silt in radiator? #7  
I wonder how long it takes for coolant to get that bad.

I did my Yanmar a second time, three years after my first flush/change. This time little sediment came out and the coolant looked same as new.

Seems to me in a system that is sealed airtight, the coolant shouldn't degrade quickly and the 40% mix I use should be sufficient to reduce rust formation.

What do others experience? Is three years about right?
 
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I have to admit that I have been lax with my wifes 2003 SUV. It came with 5 year antifreeze in it and I have been meaning to change it out, but just cant seem to remember it when I am home. Last time I popped the cap on it, it was still just as orange as when new. Maybe I will get to it before 2013 rolls around. Same with my Yanmar, I havent checked it at the low point drain, but I guess that would be a good thing to do. I have 4 gallons of antifreeze just setting in my shop so MAYBE I will look at changing that out on the Yannie. I'll have to get some Dexcool for the wifes car though so it may be a few months or years before I remember since I never drive it anyway. My 2007 truck is maybe running a close second but I also think mileage is a factor on it rather than just age. Yannie hasnt been ran more than 100 hours since I got it 3 years ago and SUV has about 70K so it is supposed to be good for 5 years or 100K miles. Just maybe I will take care of some of this work one day when I am home and dont have something else to do. I got my boat registered last year, finally got the numbers this year and my new fishing license last Feb. Maybe this is the year I will put my bass boat back in the water, its only been drying out for about 3 years. Well lots of other things to do first, like change out the coolant in those machines.
 
   / corrosion or silt in radiator?
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You mind sharing the process to take to flush the radiator?, never done this but have ben wanting to. By flush just using a hose pipe?

Here's what I did... I started by removing the drain plug and draining out the stuff that was in there. I sprayed my hose in/let it drain a few times then put the drain plug back in. I added a bottle of flush cleaner from the autoparts store. It has directions on what to mix with it. According to the flush cleaner, you're supposed to drive it for 500 or more miles before draining... but I just drove my tractor a few hours. :) I opened up the drain plug and drained it again. This time I kept filling the radiator with water from my hose and letting it drain until it came out clear. It took a LOT of fill/drain cycles before it came out clear. After that, I filled it with ~30% coolant/water mix + some Water Wetter.
 
   / corrosion or silt in radiator? #10  
The flush I bought said to not drive the vehicle, just let it run for 15 minutes, then drain.


I guess they're all different.
 

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