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   / Cracking rear long length weld #11  
Conventional welding is 90% prep and 10% welding technique unless it's TIG but chances are a backyard welder will never run a TIG machine anyway.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #12  
Conventional welding is 90% prep and 10% welding technique unless it's TIG but chances are a backyard welder will never run a TIG machine anyway.

I am something less than a "backyard welder" and TIG is my favorite process. All I have is scracth start on my little DC inverter with a 17V torch.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #13  
If you do decide to weld it yourself, just don't go buying a whole bunch if 7018 rods at one time. They should be kept in an oven to work optimally. And even if you take the bucket to a welding shop, I still recommend getting a welder and learning to use it. My first welding project was 185 ft of ornamental fence. It turned out great and I had never picked up a welding gun in my life. It was actually fun. Since then I've taken a short welding class at a local tech school and used my time there to get some experience using stick, mig, and tig as well as using a torch. It was a very good experience.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #14  
Anyone with a tractor and equipment should have a welding machine and heating apparatus of some sort. Things always bend and break and it is not practical to take everything to a shop to fix (that is my opinion). I have taught many classes in welding at both OJT(On Job Training) and college level course and they all start with stick welding, then after proficient at that, we start teaching TIG. In some ways TIG is much easier since it is a slower process and is usually more forgiving of a mistake. MIG is the last thing to teach even though it seems the easiest at first try. MIG is so fast that a beginner can put down enough bad weld in 30 seconds that would take 10 minutes to grind out.
Stick welding is probably the easiest to learn. You only need to control arc length and travel speed once the correct amperage is set. Lots of folks think MIG is easiest but there are so many things that can go wrong with MIG that will be catastrophic to the strength of the weld.

With a little bit of hands on instruction like you might get at a local college, basic stick welding can be learned in 2-3 weeks of practicing 2 hours per night x 3 nights per week if you have the natural ability. However, some students never make a good welder even with a thousand hours of practice. This is why I suggest that you enroll in a welding class to get the basics learned (if you a naturally inclined) prior to purchasing a machine. You will then determine which process better suits your needs. Then you will just need practice to get better.

For my farm needs, I only have a nice AC/DC stick machine and an oxy-acetylene torch (both bought used) and with those I can fix anything that breaks or bends. I could add a TIG torch and a bottle of argon if I needed to weld a bunch of light gauge stuff, but so far in 10 years of having my "farm", I havent needed to use TIG.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #15  
Post a picture of the crack.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #16  
It is cheaper to get into arc welding than it is O/A. You can get a good used name brand used AC/DC machine for less than the cylinders cost for O/A. A 230 amp AC machine can be picked up for $100 +/- I picked up a used Miller Dial Arc 250 yesterday for $200. Works great. Uses 50A breaker on 240V though. I wonder if anyone buys new O & A cylinders any more. That will set you back over $400 for medium size ones and then you have to fill them for another $60 or so. I have bought used ones for under $100. Always have 2-3 sets setting round.

Ron
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #18  
Lol you guys all have a billion reasons for this guy to not weld it him self...yet its a crack thats going to get drug through the dirt.

Clean it well inside and out and mig weld it. Any new welder should start with a mig welder. Watch a few you tube tutorials and go to work.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #19  
Lol you guys all have a billion reasons for this guy to not weld it him self...yet its a crack thats going to get drug through the dirt.

Clean it well inside and out and mig weld it. Any new welder should start with a mig welder. Watch a few you tube tutorials and go to work.
Learning to weld on a trailer or something potentially life damaging in the event of a failure is a very bad idea. Catastrophic failure of a weld on a bucket or most tractor impliments is usually only harmful to your ego.

I mostly know what I'm doing & will wrld on impliments all the time. I still wont weld on my trailers or anything potentially life threatening in the event of failure on a vehicle.

Tractor welding is a great place to learn due to the frequent abuse & need to patch things back together & low penalty for failure.
 
   / Cracking rear long length weld #20  
Hes talking about a crack on the back bottom of the loader bucket. Thats a high wear area if you curl and back drag. Seeing that its 2/3 across the bucket i would assume its not structual. Its the perfect place to start welding.

Its ok to be afraid to weld.
 

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