Crazy Driver Techniques around the World...

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JohnMiller3

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“So I have to tell you what I saw on the interstate the other night…

I have ridden in a taxi in the Argentine city of Mar Del Plata (literally, ``Cover Your Eyes''), where (a) nobody ever drives slower than 65 miles per hour, including inside parking garages, and (b) at night, many motorists drive with their headlights off, because -- a taxi driver told me this, and he was absolutely serious -- this extends the life of your bulbs. (When he told me this, we were in a major traffic jam caused by an accident involving a truck and a horse.)…

My point is that I have seen plenty of insane driving techniques, and I am telling you for a fact that no place brings so many of these techniques together as Miami, where a stop sign has no more legal significance to most motorists than a mailbox. The police down here have given up on enforcing the traffic laws. If they stop you and find a human corpse in your trunk, they'll let you off with a warning, if it's your first one…”

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/living/columnists/dave_barry/4115963.htm> So I've seen pretty much everything on the roads here. Nevertheless, I was surprised by the driver on the interstate the other night. I heard him before I saw him… (the rest of the story…</A>

by
Dave Barry - The Miami Herald
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There is one other thing that is just as bad......these stupid idiots that read while they drive......Talk about stupid.
 
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Economizing by not running your lights, that is pretty good. In Mexico it seems they economize on maintenance. It seems that the theory is BRAKES or HORN you don't need both. LIke Mexican styled food, driving styles seem to be migrating north across the border too, or is it just the drivers.

Here in south central OK, I think a large percent of the driving public really don't know some of the basic rules of the road. When they come to a 4-way stop they either slow down, not stop, and then gun it or sit there until there are no others waiting, or sort of look around and if no one else goes, they go. Car on the right has the right of way, right? Well not really. Car on the right has the right of way when two or more cars STOP at about the same time but since some drivers don't actually stop (as I do) they forfeit their opportunity to win the draw based on being to my right since they didn't stop. Of course there are those who are driving LARGE vehicles and seem to believe in the law of gross tonage, largest SUV or truck has the right of way.

One of our local "good ole boys" (son of a friend) explained one of the hazards of tailgating to a 18 wheel gravel truck driver a few months ago. Gravel trucker (we have a lot in this area due to gravel pits) was driving aggressively and tailgating the MAN he shouldn't have. Guy stops in the middle of the highway, forcing the trucker to lock up his wheels, goes back to the cab about the time the time the trucker started to climb down making rude comments about the pickup pilot's heritage. Fellow hit him one time, breaking his nose and stunning him, then turned and walked back to his pickup turned into his drive way and went home.

I got the story from the chief of police to whom the trucker reported it, as added to after the chief talked to the lad who was driving the pickup. The chief only knew one guy who lived close to the scene who would have done it and when asked siad he did it and why. When the chief put the trucker and the pickup driver together, the trucker declined to press charges and risk problems with his lisc. Publicly, the chief said he told the lad he was lucky the trucker didn't press charges. Privately, while fishing with me and my mom, the chief said the trucker got off easy. I know the lads father and have met him as well. Nice folks, but not the sort to be pushed or intimidated.

Patrick
 
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<font color=blue>...when two or more cars STOP at about the same time...</font color=blue>

I try to avoid this by making sure I either get their first or second.

JMIII,

I've been to Italy (Florence) several times. To anyone from this side of the pond, the initial reaction is to put one hand on the dash, the other on the window frame and close your eyes tight.

Few streets have painted lines. Pavement is exploited to its fullest potential. Cars and scooters regularly use the oncoming lane as an expressway. Cars are parked facing in both directions on either side of the street. It's complete chaos - or so it seems.

My uncle, who was recovering from quadruple bypass surgery, was told by his doctor to refrain from driving (sound advice). As such, his vehicle was available and he offered to let me use it. Whistling the more pertinent portion of "American Pie," I fired it up and pulled out into traffic. It was amazing. I felt all powerful. You see, it's all an act. People in Italy, when they get into their cars, put on their driving act. The meekest old lady becomes a torrent of misplaced agression. But, once I adjusted, I actually found it easier to merge into traffic - it just takes the right attitude: I'm coming and you'd better friggin' move. You want to change lanes? Put your flasher on and go - that guy in your blind spot has brakes, don't worry about it.

You see, they don't have any preconceived notions about what people should do when they're driving, thus, they're ready for anything. You could be zipping through the countryside, brake, and pull a U-turn - the person following you will no doubt shout a few things about you, but you won't get hit, and, if you look closely enough, you may even see the other driver smile as he speeds away.

Now I choose to describe the driving experience over there as invigorating, not terrifying.
 
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(pbenven) John, Well said!

(Now I choose to describe the driving experience over there as invigorating, not terrifying.)

My anual buisness trip itenerary (Software delivery, installation, and training for the folks who communicate via satellite, ELF,and VLF to submarines, both ours and the British Royal Navy) included Yokosuka in Japan, Naples in Italy, London in England as well as Pearl Harbour in Hawaii and Norfolk in Virginia) I didn't drive outside the US. I was happy to not get run over as a pedestrian. I took taxis and busses and in London the underground. I got lost, OK, would you believe a scenic detour for over an hour on the underground (if you go far enough astray it isn't actually under the ground anymore, a clue that I had gone astray)

Although I didn't drive in England I was driven in England. An interesting experience that illustrates the difference between logical and emotional understanding. Logically, I knew that as we went zipping along a country lane south of London near Petersborough (sp?) to go from HMS Mercury (not a ship, Her Royal Majesties research establishment out in the middle of sheep grazing and thatched cottage territory) to a local village pub for lunch, that the cars we met on this narrow stone lined twisting path were not trying to hit us head on. Logically, I knew that my driver and the oncoming driver would each place one wheel on the grass and one on the pavement and pass each other in safety, as civilized gentlemen. I was seated on the left, in front where by previous experience there was always a steering wheel and control pedals and a certain expectation of having to be responsible for the safe operation of the vehicle.

Logically, I knew that I could just lean back and enjoy the nice ride through the English countryside past vine covered stone fences (they wouldn't allow them this close to the pavement in the USA, would they!) and vine covered thatched roof cottages down to the quaint little vilage pub for some nice English lunch (plowman's and a pint or whatever the especiality of the house might be... NOTE: English pubs serve some good hearty lunches)

Standard practice, and it is logical, is to drive in the middle of the road since it is only one car wide and then if by chance you meet someone else motoring along in the opposite direction at the last moment you both swerve to the left and pass driver to driver. NOTE: you wait until the last moment so as to not lose momentum with one set of wheels in the grass as it might be soft from rain and the conserved momentum serves to get you back on the road before the drag pulls you to a stop.

Of course if you are a I-only-drive-in-the-US driver, you would expect the driver to swerve to the right and when he cuts to the left you expect a high speed head on collision. Subconsciously you are trying to put a foot on the non existant brake pedal and grope for the non existant steering wheel amid the laughter of your support contractor riding in the back seat (not his first trip to England). I have a sense of humor, I recovered with dignity, I laughed at myself, I noted the difference between logical understanding of the actual situaton and the emotional understanding of the situation (I was going to be killed in about a fraction of a second!!!)

I had finished chuckling and my heart rate was down to that of an aerobic workout (down from humingbird pace) when we encountered the second car. I saw it at a greater distance than the first which had sudenly appeared from around a blind (darned rock fences) curve. I braced myself, cleared my mind, prepared to die rather than flinch, and then was distracted for just a fraction of a second by a glimpse of something out the window on my side that I wouldn't have been able to examine so closely if I had been accompanied by my wife. As my head and eyes came back round the approaching car was right there and as we dodged to the left, I grabbed for the non existant steering wheel and felt for the non existant brake, A G A I N.

Later, after lunch with a nice pint of "gyrostabalization fluid" (their best bitters) I was able to relax and face certain death without giving outward signs that I was preparing for a collision.

I could probably learn to drive "over there" but really don't want to do it as eventually one day, to quote Allen Funt, "when you least expect it" there will be an errant lorry and my reflexes and the overwhelming weight of previous American experience will win out over logic and he will dodge to his left and I will dodge to my right directly into a head-on collision. Again, I was happy to not get run over as a pedestrian. Lots of Americans step off of sidewalks directly in front of oncoming traffic and are hurt of killed. Years of looking left, looking right, then left again just as you step off the curb, only works if the traffic is driving on the right. In London they paint big signs on the street, alligned so pedestrians can see them, they say "LOOK RIGHT". I guess so many of us walked out in front of busses that it began to impact their schedules so they put out the signs.

At least in London they don't drive on the sidewalks very much and I was relatively safe there. Italians don't let pavement go idle. They drive on the sidewalks and or park on the sidewalks forcing pedestrians to go out in the street with the cars.

For those of you who thought Chevy Chase in "European Vacation" exaggerated the "roundabout" scene, well, not much.

Patrick
 
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i spent a little time in Madrid back in @68; i stood on the street corner for a couple hours, trying to figure out the right of way rules, well, the only thing i could come up with was the horn..the first one to blow his horn, never let off the gas, everyone else coming into that intersection would lock up the brakes and slide till they saw the horn blower go through, and then they were on the gas pedal again!!!!!
heehaw
 
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India is by far the craziest place I've found for driving. Most of the outside mirrors are gone. The busses have signs on the back that say "Horn Please" - they expect you to honk if you are back there - especially if you are going to pass. Its nothing to pull into the oncoming lane and pass while on a blind approach on a hill with the lights out. They don't turn their lights on until at least an hour after dark. Its kind of unnerving to pass a cow with very long horns standing in the center median. I just kept waiting for one to turn his head and poke a horn through my window. We booked a car and driver for an overnight side trip from Delhi to Shimla. I got to ride in the front seat of the SUV with no seatbelts while the driver drifted through sandy curves in the Himalayan foothills - occasionally dodging a monkey. The wife and kids huddled in the back. It took me a couple of days to unclench from that ride.
 
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David, I have never been in India or close to it but a buddy of mine was on a 6 month oceanographic research cruise in the Indian Ocean and got to visit all the neat places like Sri Lanka, Ceylon, Madagascar, India, Mauritious(sp?), etc. From the tales he told about hiring cars and drivers to get to see the sights and some of his other exploits, he had some of the excitement you and your family had.

Mexico is about as wild of driving as I need to experience. Out in the Baja desert where many roads are a single pair of ruts in the sand in places, one learns to follow local custom which is when meeting another vehicle to keep to the center of the "road" gun the engine and speed up, possibly down shifting if needed, to build up momentum while essentially acting as if you are playing "chicken" with the other driver. Then, like in England with wet shoulders and narrow roads, but with more of a last moment flair, you each get to have two wheels in a rut and two in the soft sand on the "shoulder" and as you pass each other you swerve back into the middle before you lose speed and get stuck. If you can manage a wave, all the better, and courtesy is to look back to see if the other guy made it because if he didn't you should find a safe place to stop and hike back to help. There are places in Baja where being stuck isn't just an inconvenience but assumes definite life or death proportions.

Driving in some towns is frightening because of Mexico's system of jurisprudence (modeled after the French). It is illegal to become involved in an accident and (thanks to the French) everyone is guilty until proven innocent, so first thing they do is place everyone remotely involved (passengers included) in custody and sort everything out. It matters not that Pedro had no lights or that he was towing the car behind el burro the wrong way on a one way street or ran a red light or anything else. Until you show financial responsibility (good Mexican insurance) you may stay in jail. Your stateside insurance might be valid in Mexico, i.e. your company will pay but that is of no consequence as only Mexican companies meet the requirement and sometimes they get decertified after you pay your premiums and your insurance is worthless. So far I have never been in a Mexican jail but I have made travel claims for buisness trips that I labeled "mordida", literally "a little bite" in fact a straight forward bribe to the cop on the scene. This is standard practice and is fully socially acceptable and expected.


Patrick
 

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