I was in the allpower store in lancaster last thanksgiving ,talking turkey /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif to the sales manager (Chuck I think) pricing 1431 and 1433v he gave me lowball price right of the bat ,for the 1433 but as of that time he hadn't even heard of the 1431?If it hadn't been for the info on the 1433v ,I might not have had the ammo to get my local dealer in md. down to my price,I can appreciate a place like that! If I lived local he would get my business... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif