Diesel fuel information

   / Diesel fuel information #11  
In the summer in my 2001 Cat C15 I put 1/2 a quart of automatic transmission fluid once a week in each tank (100 gallons).

In winter for my Kioti CK27 I put about 2 ounces of Kleenflo antigel per 5 gallon can. I use NO ATF in the Kioti. It was designed for ULSD fuel. (I think).

@Roy. I would rather have a Thompson, BUT can't up here in Canada. It is only cops and other crooks are allowed that kind of fire power. lol
 
   / Diesel fuel information #12  
ULSD has additives in it to meet the lubricity standards... barely and it does not meet some of the newest Bosch standards if what I am reading on the car forums is correct. I use the recommended amount of Power Service, gray bottle, in all my diesel vehicles. Like others have said, cheap insureance and my 02 Golf TDI is a little quieter when I use it.
 
   / Diesel fuel information #13  
I don't use any additives in my diesel and never have. I don't care what you add in the fuel, if you get water in it, algae is likely to form. If you try to put water thru an injector, you are going to damage it. The only additive I would say is really needed is anti-gel and then only if you are in an area that gets below 20F and stays there all winter.
I ran an old 1984 Yanmar on straight diesel with no additives ever and never had any issues with fuel, injectors etc. My current tractors are designed to run on ULSD. Most of the stuff on the shelves for cleaning injection systems, increasing oil lubricity is just snake oil much of which has carried over from early 60-70-80's when MAYBE some of the stuff was needed for cleaning the injectors in the new systems and gasoline wasn't filtered enough to keep from dirtying up the fuel systems. Now days, I don't think any of that is needed. I don't use it in any of my vehicles and never had any problems with O2 sensors, injectors fouling etc. Cleaning the fuel rails is big money to a mechanic that uses a $10 can of cleaner and charges $100 or more to do it and does absolutely not one iota of good.
I buy my fuel from a distributor who delivers to my house. It is clean fuel, I keep it stored inside my enclosed shed so no rain can get to it, temperature fluctuation is less also so less likely to get condensation, tank has no vents so is not open to atmosphere either. I have a good fuel filter on the pump to remove any thing that may be in the tank. So far, I have never had to change any fuel filters on my equipment and the ones that have a clear housing show not a bit of contaminates so why change something that isn't dirty.

I would say if it makes you feel better to put an additional $15 per hundred gallons into the tank, then by all means do so. Peace of mind is worth that for sure.
 
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I would say if it makes you feel better to put an additional $15 per hundred gallons :confused: into the tank, then by all means do so. Peace of mind is worth that for sure.

A gallon of Schaeffer's Diesel Treat is around 20 bucks and will treat A Thousand Gallons of fuel so 'peace of mind' just got cheaper :cool:
 
   / Diesel fuel information #15  
Winter anti gell is nessisary. On older machines with mechanicaly ran engines, lower psi injectors and larger sized tips if you were to say add two stroke engine oil it would lube the injection pump and easily come right through the injector. As far as newer machines I would never use anything else than your regular power service or any anti gel of course. Newer machines have higher psi systems and very small injector tips.

What is the fuel system on your or any kioti?
 
   / Diesel fuel information #16  
also cetane improver - Yanmar recommends 50 cetane, we get 40 cetane and MAYBE up to 43-45. This makes poor combustion, high fuel consumption, and dirty injectors & piston rings.

I'd much rather spend a few pennies for cleaner, lower fuel consumption engine with no winter gelling problem & known lubricated injection pump.

These little engines are not sophisticated, computer-controlled, high pressure common rail engines that are much more tolerant to low sulfer / lower lubricity diesel fuels.
 
   / Diesel fuel information #17  
A gallon of Schaeffer's Diesel Treat is around 20 bucks and will treat A Thousand Gallons of fuel so 'peace of mind' just got cheaper :cool:
++1 on the schaeffers,been using it for 15 plus years.Some folks just have to educate themselves.
 

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