DIfferential braking

[Anonymous Poster]

I am looking at tc29d and tc33d tractors to mow 3 acres/snow blow 600 ft/fel/bh. The land is a mix of level and inclined. Most all of the mowing is level. From reading on this net it seems the brake and hydro pedals are on the same side. How do you use the brake to make a tight turn?Is differential braking something that you do often? I am obviously new to compact tractors-sorry if these are simpleton questions. Along the same line- are many of you using super steer tractors? Do you like the feature? Anyone dislike super steer? With the mowing I need to do it seems like a good feature.

 

[cstocks]

MIKED,

I've had my TC33D for a year and a half and I have never used my brakes once, aside from setting the parking brake. Obviously, that means I have never used my brakes to assist in turning. With the hydrostatic transmission it is easy for me to negotiate sharper turns than the front end makes by making quick back and forth adjustments as I turn the wheel. Those who have supersteer will all tell you how much they love it, while those without supersteer tend to agree that the 29 and 33 turn plenty sharp without it. Since I have never used my brakes seperately and don't have supersteer I cannot tell you what I am missing. For me, the turning radius is sharp enough and adjusting w/ short, quick forward and rear movements is all I need. I mow flat land on my three acres and up and down hills on a highline on my other property and neither have many trees or other obstacles to mow around, so that influences how I feel about my setup. If your situation involves lots of stuff to navigate around your needs will most likely be different than mine.

 

[thcri]

MikeD,

I have the TC29D and that was my question to the dealer. He told me that New Holland uses the same format for Hydro as the standard clutch. I have owned my TC29D for almost a year now and had a TC21D for a year also. I have never had to use the differential braking at all. I don't think on my 21 I ever had the cross link off of the brakes. My 29 I took the cross link off a couple of times to check the differential. Where you may get into trouble is when brush hoggin with the mower up and you take the weight off the front end. I usually leave my loader on for that. The other thing I do have on my 29 is supersteer that will help in tight turns.


I just don't think you will have any trouble with it and if you are creative you can put the heel of your foot on the hydro and the toe on the brake. Im not cordinated enough to make that work though.

murph

 

[Mark_in_NH]

Mike,
I am not sure just what the peddle layout is on the models you mentioned. One of the reasons I liked the TC35D, 40D, 45D series is that,
The hydro peddles are on your right while the brake and differential lock lever is on your left. Otherwise I don't know how you would one foot to do it all.

 

[Anonymous Poster]

I believe most hydrostat tractors have cruise control. You set the cruise control then your foot is free to use the brake pedals independently of each other, for a left turn or a right turn.

 

[thcri]

Shoppintractors,

You can't do that on my TC29D, you'll end up with the steering wheel in your face!!!! Just kiddin, but hitting the brakes turns the cruise off and whamooo, instant stop.


murph

 

[Bird]

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As far as I know you can do that on any Kubota, but not on a TC29D. That's because on the Kubotas you have to depress both brake pedals to release the cruise, but on the TC29D you can use the brake to turn one direction (and I've forgotten which), but the other brake pedal releases the cruise control. At least that's the way it is on my cousin's TC29D, and according to his owner's manual, that's the way it's supposed to work.

 

[thcri]

Bird,

So what you are saying is I could try the other direction or brake and it may work. I just got lucky then the first time, crapped my pants and never tried it again. Or I suppose I could see which brake has the switch on it.

murph

 

[Bird]

That's right, Murph. I read my cousin's manual and was surprised to see that, so I had to go try it and found the manual was right; I just don't remember which way you can turn and which way will release the cruise. You can probably look for the switch or simply try one brake and then the other to see which one. You don't even need to be turning to do it. And I believe my cousin's TC29D is a 2000 year model, so I can't say for sure that it's true of all of them.

 

[thcri]

Bird,

Mine is a 2001. But for the life of me I can't find anything in the book. In fact in the glossary or the contents the word cruise is not in it. I paged through each page one by one and I can find where it talks about differential braking but nothing on the cruise control. In fact when they display the dash, they don't show the switch for the cruise. So tomorrow night I will go out and test it for sure.

murph