Dirty Oil in 4010 at 30 hrs.

[Anonymous Poster]

Long time listener, First time caller...

I have had my 4010 Cut for 2 weeks, and have put 30 hours on it. The manual calls for the first Oil Change at 50 hrs. At 25 hours I noticed the oil was just starting to show signs it was getting dirty (discolored). At 30 hours it is dirty...I bought oil and a filter last night and won't run it until I change it. The Air filter and housing are both clean.
My question is...How long should the oil last before it gets dirty? I realize it will depend to some extent on the environment in which it is operating, and that this is only the break-in oil. I have used it to move dirt, pull a one bottom plow, and a 50" tiller. Sure, this is a "dirty" environment, but if the normal oil change is every 200 hours and it is dirty at 30, am I doing something wrong? I let it warm up at approx. 1/2 throttle (per the manual) until it runs smooth (about 1 minute), then finish the warmup at idle for approx. 4 minutes before using. Could the warmup at idle be causing excessive carbon buildup? It seems to me 1/2 throttle for 5 minutes would cause excessive wear.

For comparison, I have another diesel (350 Case Dozer) that is run in a dirty/dusty environment and the oil doesn't get dirty before I change it (every 200 hours). The warmup procedure is to start and warmup at idle. This has worked well for 20 years. The air filter system on the 4010 appears superior to the Case.

Any suggestions/ideas would be appreciated.

Oh yeah, for you new 4010 owners...an error in the operator's manual states to turn the key to the "On" position to preheat the glow plugs. This is incorrect on this model.
To preheat the glowplugs, place range selector in High or Low, then turn key to the "Start" position for 3 seconds and release. Now place range selector in neutral and start the tractor.

 

[Bob_S]

Had me a bit concerned with my 4310 so I went out and checked her oil level and quality. Looked ok at 40 hrs. (this checkup was about 10 hrs overdue). Iam no mechanic but you might want to check the oil cap and air filter to make sure theres no problems. Gook luck. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[thcri]

I guess I would talk to your dealer. I really don't think you have a problem though. I would not change the oil unless your dealer tells you. On my TC29D they told me not to change the oil the first time until it had fifty hours on it. Had something to do with allowing the rings and valves to seat properly. It did not have a break in oil of any sorts just wanted the valves and rings to seal properly. I know that I can change the oil on my New Holland TC29D and in thirty hours the oil will discolor.

murph

 

[JATO_RaT]

Your oil is not dirty, its simply doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing. Your diesel will do this to oil in the next 50 hours as well. You can change it now, no harm, but your going to drive yourself nuts. Now if your hydraulic oil is anything but very clean, theres a problem. My 2 cents says follow the manual. Rat...

 

[fieldman12]

When you say dirty, I am taking it you mean the oil is jet black? I can tell you that this is very common on allot of diesel engines. You will also find that on allot of diesel motors you can change the oil, start motor up, shut it off, and pull the oil stick and it will look like it has never been changed at all. I have seen some diesel motors, though few that would keep the oil for the most part looking clean like a gas engine. /forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Dealer said go ahead and change it, if that is what makes me happy...so, now I'm happy! I'll keep watching it, but won't be quite so concerned next time.

Thanks to all of you for the comments/suggestions. The group of people on this board is just fantastic.