IH3444
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Does anyone know what the alternator output is in amps for the DK45S??? Thanks, IH3444
DK45S alternator output
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TractorLegend
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I would second that 50 amps at full load
ps---I recommend never to use an alternator as a battery charger on a completely dead, jump started battery---they were not designed to run at full rated load very long before smoking.
Think of an alternator as a battery "maintainer" on a good battery.
Bad batteries work the heck out of otherwise good alternators too.
ps---I recommend never to use an alternator as a battery charger on a completely dead, jump started battery---they were not designed to run at full rated load very long before smoking.
Think of an alternator as a battery "maintainer" on a good battery.
Bad batteries work the heck out of otherwise good alternators too.
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I honestly don't "get it". Why the questions on alternator output on tractors on TBN? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif In the vehicle world, the only time I really hear about alternator changes is when someone is adding a 5000 watt stereo system with 2 or 3 two ferad capacitors to prevent spiking and the amps require #4 welding lead wires as a power source. Really, not just on Kioti at all, but why the alternator question on tractors?? In 25 years of owning tractors I've never touched an alternator on a tractor. The batteries take a beating in general, and some hold up better under the beating than others, but I've never ever had to work on an alternator. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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<font color="blue"> I honestly don't "get it". Why the questions on alternator output on tractors on TBN? </font>
Plowing snow in the dark....
- Two worklights (four 55w bulbs) on the ROPS shining towards the front aimed above the FEL.
- Two worklights (two 55w bulbs) shining to the back
- Two headlights (two 55w bulbs?)
- Flashers
Watts add up. 8 x 55 / 12 = 37 amps
Plowing snow in the dark....
- Two worklights (four 55w bulbs) on the ROPS shining towards the front aimed above the FEL.
- Two worklights (two 55w bulbs) shining to the back
- Two headlights (two 55w bulbs?)
- Flashers
Watts add up. 8 x 55 / 12 = 37 amps
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Thanks Mike!
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I honestly don't "get it". Why the questions on alternator output on tractors on TBN? )</font>
Boys and toys????
I understand the desire to get light above the FEL and to the rear. However, it seems unlikely you'd really need to have all the lights on at the same time even if you did hook up work lights fore and aft as well as headlights. Why not just do some clever electrical wiring so the headlights go out when the forward worklights go on? Wouldn't the standard alternator/dynamo be sufficient to run one set of lights at a time?
And speaking of boys and toys, what about just using LED based worklights instead?? I get an amazing amount of light with three LED bulbs running off two AAA batteries which last 24hours. I imagine you could light up a football field with 20-30amps at 13-14 volts!
Boys and toys????
I understand the desire to get light above the FEL and to the rear. However, it seems unlikely you'd really need to have all the lights on at the same time even if you did hook up work lights fore and aft as well as headlights. Why not just do some clever electrical wiring so the headlights go out when the forward worklights go on? Wouldn't the standard alternator/dynamo be sufficient to run one set of lights at a time?
And speaking of boys and toys, what about just using LED based worklights instead?? I get an amazing amount of light with three LED bulbs running off two AAA batteries which last 24hours. I imagine you could light up a football field with 20-30amps at 13-14 volts!
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Okay, I just looked; the alternator on my other orange tractor is 60 amp. So what?! Even in the example given, wouldn't a 40 amp alternator be sufficient? I guess I'm different. I promise you that my tractor having a 60 amp alternator had absolutely zero to do with me buying my tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
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Dargo, in the real tractor world, a 15amp alternator probably would suffice. But here in the TBN tractor world, many of us with small tractors tend to also watch the TV show PIMP MY RIDE and we load up our little toys with all sorts of goodies. So for that very small minority of tractor owners who put extra lights on their tractors, add a Pat's Easy Change, weld on bucket hooks, add extra toolboxes, chain holders, GPS units, XM radios, multiple cup holders, remote starters, spinner hubcaps, rear view mirrors and dare I say color coordinated fuzzy dice . . . well to us folks who do that stuff, then we need to know the output rating for our alternators, we also need to know the pump flow of each of our hydraulic pumps, and the wall thickness or our ROPS. Because we are tractor geeks.
Talk to any dealer who has been around for quite a while and ask him what % of people add lights, they will say it is about 2 or 3%, ask about how many people weld chain hooks on their buckets, the answer I've gotten is about 10%, ask about a Pat's easy change and they will ask you what the heck you are talking about.
What I am trying to point out is that some things you read about commonly on TBN are not common at all in the real world of tractors.
Heck some of the brands you read about on TBN are rare as hens teeth in the real world but seem relatively common from our little warped view of the tractor universe.
Whenever I talk to a tractor dealer I constantly have to remind myself that to him, a tractor is a tool, but to me a tractor is a hobby. Very similar to talking to cops about guns. Many only shoot their gun to 'qualify' and then never again, but many gun nuts (like me) buy bullets in bulk and load our own or have highly customized weapons at our fingertips. Same thing applies to all parts of society.
IslandTractor wrote: <font color="green"> Why not just do some clever electrical wiring so the headlights go out when the forward worklights go on? Wouldn't the standard alternator/dynamo be sufficient to run one set of lights at a time?</font>
Yes. In some cases you might start to draw your battery down a bit but it would recover the next time you ran without the lights. For anyone other than a commercial operator, it would be fine. There are dozens of examples of little BX series Kubota owners who do just that with their tiny dynamos and have extensive lights and report no problems.
IslandTractor also wrote: <font color="blue"> And speaking of boys and toys, what about just using LED based worklights instead?? I get an amazing amount of light with three LED bulbs running off two AAA batteries which last 24hours. I imagine you could light up a football field with 20-30amps at 13-14 volts! </font>
Ahhh, my next project . . . .
Talk to any dealer who has been around for quite a while and ask him what % of people add lights, they will say it is about 2 or 3%, ask about how many people weld chain hooks on their buckets, the answer I've gotten is about 10%, ask about a Pat's easy change and they will ask you what the heck you are talking about.
What I am trying to point out is that some things you read about commonly on TBN are not common at all in the real world of tractors.
Heck some of the brands you read about on TBN are rare as hens teeth in the real world but seem relatively common from our little warped view of the tractor universe.
Whenever I talk to a tractor dealer I constantly have to remind myself that to him, a tractor is a tool, but to me a tractor is a hobby. Very similar to talking to cops about guns. Many only shoot their gun to 'qualify' and then never again, but many gun nuts (like me) buy bullets in bulk and load our own or have highly customized weapons at our fingertips. Same thing applies to all parts of society.
IslandTractor wrote: <font color="green"> Why not just do some clever electrical wiring so the headlights go out when the forward worklights go on? Wouldn't the standard alternator/dynamo be sufficient to run one set of lights at a time?</font>
Yes. In some cases you might start to draw your battery down a bit but it would recover the next time you ran without the lights. For anyone other than a commercial operator, it would be fine. There are dozens of examples of little BX series Kubota owners who do just that with their tiny dynamos and have extensive lights and report no problems.
IslandTractor also wrote: <font color="blue"> And speaking of boys and toys, what about just using LED based worklights instead?? I get an amazing amount of light with three LED bulbs running off two AAA batteries which last 24hours. I imagine you could light up a football field with 20-30amps at 13-14 volts! </font>
Ahhh, my next project . . . .
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I honestly don't "get it". Why the questions on alternator output on tractors on TBN? )</font>
You guys just don't have anything better to do than to comment on this question??? The man simply wanted to know what the output is. I think that's pretty easily "gotten."
Some tractor alternators are only 15amp.
It's not surprising to me that you haven't done anything on alternators. From many of your posts it's clear that you don't work on your own tractors anyway.
I agree that for most users, the output isn't that important, but in this case, the man just wanted to know. No big deal, but it sure got big responses from a couple or people we can count on for that.
John
You guys just don't have anything better to do than to comment on this question??? The man simply wanted to know what the output is. I think that's pretty easily "gotten."
Some tractor alternators are only 15amp.
It's not surprising to me that you haven't done anything on alternators. From many of your posts it's clear that you don't work on your own tractors anyway.
I agree that for most users, the output isn't that important, but in this case, the man just wanted to know. No big deal, but it sure got big responses from a couple or people we can count on for that.
John