dk45se vs ds4510

[STROKETHIS]

I was curious what the main diff. were on these models and also what the diff. is on the ds4510 and ds4510hs. Thanks in advance for the info.

 

[8404]

this is a good question, which one is the heavier duty tractor DK or the DS

 

[LD1]

It appears there is not a whole lot of difference. Maybe styling/ergonomics?????

But the FEL lift capacities spec the same. With the exception that they list a 72" bucket for the DK45 and a 66" for the DS4510.

The 3PH specs are also real close. Tire size is the same.

The only difference I can see is the DK45 is about 400lbs heavier. So maybe the castings/frame is built just a tad heavier????

What is the price difference on them? Have you seen them in person??

 

[tcartwri]

I thought the DS was their economy line.

 

[Dmace]

I thought the DS was their economy line.

I agree.

Some other comparison facts:
Dk45SE vs. DS4510
12 speed synchronized transmission vs. 8 speed constant mesh
38 HP Rear PTO vs. 35.1 HP
16.8 gpm hydraulics vs. 13.2 gpm
3,950 lbs vs. 3538 lbs

There are accessories like push button 4wd, standard rear remotes, extending 3pt arms, 3pt lift control near arms, etc... which make the DK45SE more of a deluxe version. The DK45SE can also be had with a factory cab that the DS cannot.

 

[bluechip]

Some More:
DK45SE vs DS4510
std rear remotes - option
extending lift arms - standard lift arms
rear lift control -
tilt steering wheel
push button 4wd - Manual 4wd
same engine, I doubt there is a real difference in PTO, both use electrohydraulic PTO engagement.
better seat
Hydro available - Hydraulic shuttle available

I'm sure there are more, I can think of one:

Higher price - Lower price

 

[BTI]

DK SE is the newest DK Chassis.
The DS is the old DK Chassis with a New DK style front axle.
Most of the other differences have been mentioned.

I like the machines, both.
But bang for the buck the DS 4110 is hard to beat in my opinion.
Of course it depends on what kind of bang you are looking for LOL
I've had customers walk right passed the DS and pay more for the DK SE.
The niceties mean that much to them.

The PTO differences are that the DS only has on and off, the DK has on off and the position where the PTO will shut off when you raise the 3pt.

All in all its just personal preference

BTI

 

[STROKETHIS]

yeah i wanted a kioti but there finaceing is so screwy. You have to pay attention real close to it. They really push you into the 6.09 apr note. And at that apr its cheaper for me to buy a kubota. If this was a cash deal koiti has the bang for the buck down. i don't have the cash and they don't have the finaceing. They wanted to stick me in a 7 year note thats just crazy. When i asked about the .99 apr on there website i was told you can get that and you have excellent credit. But to have the .99 there will be a 4% mark up on the machine and you lose the 1500 off so without the 1500 rebate the machine is 24995 plus another 4%. I walked out of there laughing pretty good. No question about it kioti is a good machine. But kubota has the legancey. And if you can get into a kubota fro cheaper then a kioti well thats a no brainer to me. Kubota has 0% for 60 months. Just couldn't see the kioti being worth that much. Even the ds model was guna be higher then the kubota. I hope ya'll understand i went back and forth for a few days on this but in the end it just makes more since to get the kubota. Kioti needs to be more up front about there finaceing and get some better rebates and promtions out there.

 

[Dmace]

If you think your going to get 0% financing on the same quoted price as a cash sale, even through Kubota, then your crazy. I tried that with every dealer I went to, Kubota, JD, New Holland, Mahindra, etc... and NO ONE would finance for the same price as quoted on a cash sale. They all added about $1000-$2000 to the price for a financed deal. I ended up buying the Kioti cash instead of financing a more expensive machine and glad I did.

 

[STROKETHIS]

i know the cash price vs finaced. But kioti has multi diff. prices for there machine by what interest rate you want. I have done the research and home work and i know numbers pretty well. It makes alot of since to me when i can buy a kubota for a higher price but come out cheaper becasue of the finaceing.