megotatractor
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I have a JD 2210 with 23 hp yanmar diesel. I want it to last a long long time, any recommendations? Slick 50? Synthetic oil?
Do I dare put Slick 50 in my Yanmar?
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Junkman
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Oil changes regularly with a good grade of oil is better than any additives. You can use synthetic or Dino based. Maintaining the proper level is important and a good quality filter is also required. Your frequency of oil changes is determined by type of use and hours of operation. Check the owners manual for suggested maintenance schedule and follow it faithfully. A properly maintained machine will never let you down. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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Just my humble opinion. Slick 50, NEVER. Synthetic only if you are going to go with an extended drain or are willing to pay the premium for synthetic. Personally, I've switched everything I own over to synthetic, Rotella for the Kubota and the rider and Mobil 1 for the vehicles and small gas engines. Repeat, just my humble opinion.
rockyridgefarm
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<font color="green"> Do I dare put Slick 50 in my Yanmar? </font>
Only if you WANT to kill it....
Synthetics? Personally I'd rather use a good grade of oil and be forced to make frequent changes...
Only if you WANT to kill it....
Synthetics? Personally I'd rather use a good grade of oil and be forced to make frequent changes...
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have a JD 2210 with 23 hp yanmar diesel. I want it to last a long long time, any recommendations? Slick 50? Synthetic oil? )</font>
I recall hearing about a class action lawsuit against these people who make Slick 50. Seems it was something about yes, it put a coat of something on parts for increased lubrication, **but** that coating also plugged the smaller oil passages.. which caused a lot of failures. Not sure of my facts here, but I'd stay away from it at least until I did a LOT of research on what really happened and why.
Bob
I recall hearing about a class action lawsuit against these people who make Slick 50. Seems it was something about yes, it put a coat of something on parts for increased lubrication, **but** that coating also plugged the smaller oil passages.. which caused a lot of failures. Not sure of my facts here, but I'd stay away from it at least until I did a LOT of research on what really happened and why.
Bob
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Not sure of my facts here )</font>
Me neither, but I've never yet known of an oil additive that did enough good to be worth what it costs, and in many cases, they may do more harm than good. Back in the late '50s, Mobil's engineers said there were only two on the market that would do no harm, and that they would do no more good than the old "upper lube" that all the oil companies made. Yeah, I know that was a long time ago, and many products have come and gone since then, but I tend to think that would be right even today.
Me neither, but I've never yet known of an oil additive that did enough good to be worth what it costs, and in many cases, they may do more harm than good. Back in the late '50s, Mobil's engineers said there were only two on the market that would do no harm, and that they would do no more good than the old "upper lube" that all the oil companies made. Yeah, I know that was a long time ago, and many products have come and gone since then, but I tend to think that would be right even today.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have a JD 2210 with 23 hp yanmar diesel. I want it to last a long long time, any recommendations? Slick 50? Synthetic oil? )</font>
Slick 50--Never. The magic ingredient in this is Teflon, and the maker of Teflon, DuPont, tried unsuccessfully to prevent this product from ever being sold as an oil additive. Our good old court system forced them to sell Teflon to the Slick50 people so they (Slick50),in turn, could market an unneeded product to people who do not understand engine lubrication. The FTC finally brought suit against them for false advertising. I am surprised this product is still on the market.
Synthetic oil--Won't hurt anything, but really won't do any good either. Unless you're running hundreds of hours per year and can take advantage of the extended drain intervals it offers, IMHO you're better off with dino and normal changes.
Slick 50--Never. The magic ingredient in this is Teflon, and the maker of Teflon, DuPont, tried unsuccessfully to prevent this product from ever being sold as an oil additive. Our good old court system forced them to sell Teflon to the Slick50 people so they (Slick50),in turn, could market an unneeded product to people who do not understand engine lubrication. The FTC finally brought suit against them for false advertising. I am surprised this product is still on the market.
Synthetic oil--Won't hurt anything, but really won't do any good either. Unless you're running hundreds of hours per year and can take advantage of the extended drain intervals it offers, IMHO you're better off with dino and normal changes.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have a JD 2210 with 23 hp yanmar diesel. I want it to last a long long time, any recommendations? Slick 50? Synthetic oil? )</font>
My Yanmar 24 hp diesel *has* lasted a long time, since about 1980.
I don't think the engine is different in any respect from what it was 20 years ago, aside from exterior appearance. I don't know how trick oil could have improved anything if that had been used.
Listen to Junkman. Frequent oil and filter changes are the best preventive maintenance because they flush out abrasive particles and chemical contaminants.
Start it up and close it down as recommended in the owner's manual because that's where the most wear occurs.
Nothing more is needed.
My Yanmar 24 hp diesel *has* lasted a long time, since about 1980.
I don't think the engine is different in any respect from what it was 20 years ago, aside from exterior appearance. I don't know how trick oil could have improved anything if that had been used.
Listen to Junkman. Frequent oil and filter changes are the best preventive maintenance because they flush out abrasive particles and chemical contaminants.
Start it up and close it down as recommended in the owner's manual because that's where the most wear occurs.
Nothing more is needed.
Slamfire
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One other problem with Slick 50 is it doesn't bond to the metal, a couple of oil changes and all the teflon has drained away. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
BobCorazza
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Not much different to add to the consensus with the exception of synthetic oil. If cost is not a primary factor, then synthetic is hands down the best. Synthetic oil excels in cold start flow, high temp shear, and volitility.
Petroleum oil will of course provide years of trouble free service with regular changes, but I want the best performance oil combined with bypass filtration down to 1 micron (absolute). Also with bypass filtration one can properly extend oil change intervals and end up spending about as much as with standard pertoleum oil changes.
Petroleum oil will of course provide years of trouble free service with regular changes, but I want the best performance oil combined with bypass filtration down to 1 micron (absolute). Also with bypass filtration one can properly extend oil change intervals and end up spending about as much as with standard pertoleum oil changes.
