Do I need a tractor?

   / Do I need a tractor? #1  

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I need your help. I am not sure if I need a tractor, but would like one. Here is my situation...

I just bought a house on 5.8 acres. About 2.5 acres needs to be mowed, and we have a very cheap lawn service that mows it for about $65 every other week. They also snow plow our long driveway for about $45 each time. It's about 300 feet long. We do not have any farm animals. We have a fruit tree orchard and have about 10 apple trees.

My thoughts are that if we get a sub-compact utility tractor, we'd get the mid mower option, but I'd still rather have the company come do our lawn. They bring about 3 zero-turn mowers and finish in less than an hour. I can't beat that. But the tractor can be used to spray the lawn, spread fertilizer, aerate the lawn, and maybe even do our own snowplowing. The lawn service only cuts, they don't do fertilizers or aeration or crabgrass prevention. No one will care for your lawn better than you will, and I plan on making the lawn look a lot better. They don't care about weeds and crabgrass. I think it'd look a lot better if I did that other stuff.

Can a tractor with just a front loader do a good job at snowplowing? Or would a dedicated blade be necessary? Also, we do have to do some limbing and cutting down of limbs on our forest, could a tractor help in that? I do have a Cushman Haulster that I have been using to haul limbs, fallen branches, and all kinds of other stuff back and forth. Any thoughts on this?

We do have a pine tree forest, and the trees are infected with fungus and will eventually either fall down, or need to be chopped down. There are about 300 of these. I do not need to do this soon, but eventually it needs to happen.

Also, I want to plant more pine trees and other trees to replace the trees that have decayed. Will a front end loader suffice, or is a back hoe necessary? The prices I've seen to add a backhoe seem a bit crazy, should I worry about the backhoe later on? I don't want to rent a mini excavator every time I pick up a tree to plant.

How good are the wood chippers that you can get for SCUTs? I'm thinking John Deere 1 series or Kubota BX series. What size wood will they chip and is it worth even doing that? Or just pile up the wood and rent a serious wood chipper?

Can the front end loader actually dig, grade land, or be used to remove the top 4-6 inches of sod? Do these tractors 17-26 horsepower have enough oomph to dig up dirt and sod and remove it?

What else can tractors do around the property? What all uses have you found for them on non-farm type properties. Just a house, some land, and some woods. I don't want to be one of those guys that buys everything just to have it and let it sit in my garage. But for about $250 a month, I don't see it as a huge expense. I'm just wondering if it will add enough value and earn it's keep.

I'm thinking of a tractor in the range of 12-16k or so. Any thoughts? Do I really "need" one, or is it more of a luxury item that will just sit in my garage and do nothing? I'm sure if I had it, I could find random stuff to do.

You all are more experienced than me, so please chime in and let me know. I am a new homeowner and need some advice.
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #2  
Tractors are useful for thousands of projects around your home. Yes Front End Loaders can be used to dig and scrape, A toothbar would help in the digging. As for the planting, no not so much, I built a "shovel" to chain onto mine to assist that. I have use the loader to make a trench to plant bulbs with though. That is quick and easy to plant bulb type flowers. The FEL is so usefull for lifting of things, I have pallet forks for mine and find it very useful. I don't own a chipper (yet), but lots of guys here do, and find them useful. While you can move snow with a FEL, it is slow, and a blade is much faster and more efficient. I recently got a grapple for my tractor, and moved a lot of cut off tree limbs yesterday, turning a laborious chore into fun! If you intend to level much land, you should invest in a boxblade for your tractor, it's scarifiers will loosen the soil and the box will smooth it out for you. There are many projects you have not thought of yet that a tractor can assist with or turn something that is a back breaking chore into a fun afternoon. I have moved a lot of stones on my place with the tractor and turned them into landscaping. To sum up, tractor ownership is fun. Here is my shovel project thread if you are interested.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/189604-shovel-ready-project.html

James K0UA
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #3  
Want and need are sometimes not the same thing and sometimes they are, sounds like you have legitimate "needs" that can only be met by spending money whether you spend the money paying someone to do it or buy a tractor to do it yourself. In the long run I imagine the cost will be about the same. It often comes down to how important it is to you to "do it yourself", essential to me but not so much by others, only you can answer that.

I probably can't help much as snow is only an occasionally occurrence here and no one has a blower, we just clear with a FEL and bucket. We own three SCUTS, BX2200, BX2660 and John Deere 2305 and all were bought for lawn mowing and small chores around the house as we have larger tractors for the heavier stuff. With only about 8 inches of ground clearance, if you are not going to be mowing, I would skip the SCUT and go to a CUT, something along the lines of the B Series Kubota, 2000 Series John Deere or equivalent in Kioti, Massey etc.

To dig and move much soil, you will need something in addition to the FEL and bucket to optimize it performance though it can be done especially with the addition of a tooth bar. We use a box scraper, sometimes a plow or tiller, just something to break up the soil then scoop it up with the bucket.

We have found it to be much cheaper to rent a back hoe than buy one, now if money was no object... We have used a post hole digger to plant trees and someone makes a spade to attach to the bucket, don't know how it works, so maybe someone can help.

A tractor is great for working in the woods and we have used pallet forks to haul trees out or just dragged and stacked them to burn. I am sure you will find plenty to do with a tractor.
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #4  
Quick answer is, if you are a male, you need a tractor.
If you are a female, you need a tractor
Thanks
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   / Do I need a tractor? #5  
With all the work that you mentioned, a small tractor tractor would be a welcomed addition to your garage. Along with a loader, a grapple would would come in very handy for all the tree triming. I cant say about a chipper, someone else will have to chime in on this one. A backhoe is allways a great addition if a person can justify the added expence. For what you need/want to do, then my vote is for a Kubota "B" series tractor (next step up from the BX) A word of caution, once you have a tractor of your choice, its real easy to go all bat crap crazy for attachments.
Steve
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #7  
First let me say that buying a tractor with a mid-mount mower but still using a lawn service for mowing is pretty ludicrous. A mid mount mower and a weed eater and you can do your own lawn just as good as they can unless you are just too lazy to do it. I don't think a BX series Kubota will help you a lot with moving trees even with a grapple due to limited weight that they can lift. I would go with a B series in 26 or 29 HP with FEL and box blade and maybe add a grapple on if you need it. I don't have a grapple and it is a fight every time I have to move brush. YOU can get the brush with a FEL but it requires finesse and ends up loading it on by hand a lot of times. Many times I will just push it into a burn pile close by which if you have a tooth bar, it is pretty easy to gather up brush and push it without getting a lot of dirt. As for a backhoe, I have a TLB and use it a lot. It is my go to tractor for most of my work, but most folks say they cant justify the cost of ownership. To me my little projects that require a backhoe usually cant wait to build up enough work to rent one, so owning is only right for me (your mileage may vary on that). I have used it a lot thinning trees and with the aid of the hydraulic thumb (an expensive option but very handy) I can pick up and stack fairly large trees with mine (my B26 weighs in at 4001 pounds so it is a lot heavier than a standard B23xx series TLB) Just last week I used it to move a lot of limbs and lift and stack the larger stuff from a huge 100+year old oak that had blown over on my fence from a neighbors yard (also used the back hoe to lift some of the limbs when I got my bar pinched on the saw)
I have two tractors and sometimes I use the back hoe to load stuff into the bucket of the larger LS tractor (did I say I don't have a grapple) so I find lots of uses for the back hoe including digging up and removing those pesky rocks that grow out of our Arkansas soil all the time.
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #8  
Personally I would not own a MMM, too clunky and PITA
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #9  
You are asking, on THIS FORUM, if you need a Tractor?

Certainly you need a tractor.

T-B-N Respondents breathe tractors.

Tractor/Loaders and implements can be a little dangerous in the beginning, but OH WHAT FUN!
 
   / Do I need a tractor? #10  
You are asking, on THIS FORUM, if you need a Tractor?

Certainly you need a tractor.

T-B-N Respondents breathe tractors.

Tractor/Loaders and implements can be a little dangerous in the beginning, but OH WHAT FUN!

Yeah, we might be a bit more help in answering, "Do I need another tractor".:laughing:
 

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