Do you own the dinosaur bones on your property?

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Very interesting case out of Montana.

The case involves farm and ranch land in Montana. The land was initially owned by the Seversons and for approximately 15 years, it was run as a partnership between the Seversons and the Murrays, who worked there as ranchers. In 2005, the Seversons severed the surface estate from the mineral estate. They sold the surface estate to the Murrays, and divided the mineral estate into thirds, with Robert Severson (held by BEJ Minerals), Jerry Severson (held as RTWF), and the Murrays each receiving 1/3 mineral interest. Specifically, the deed provided that the parties would co-own 殿ll right title and interest in and to all of the oil, gas, hydrocarbons, and other minerals, in, on and under, and that may be produced from the property? together with the right of �ining, drilling, exploring, operating, and developing said lands for oil, gas, hydrocarbons, and minerals. At the time of this severance and sale, neither party suspected there were dinosaur fossils on the land, considered whether dinosaur fossils would be included in the mineral estate, or expressed any intent about who would be entitled to ownership of any fossils found on the property.

Shortly after the sale, the Murrays discovered numerous fossils on the property, including remains of two dinosaurs in combat referred to as the Dueling Dinosaurs and the nearly complete remains of a Tyrannosaurus rex. These fossils are rare, and the Murrays sold or have offered to sell various pieces for millions of dollars. The proceeds from these sales are being held in escrow pending resolution of this lawsuit.




MT Supreme Court: Dinosaur Fossils Are Not Minerals - Texas Agriculture Law
 
   / Do you own the dinosaur bones on your property? #2  
Dem bonz, dem dry bonz...............
 
   / Do you own the dinosaur bones on your property? #3  
It's a long term play but maybe bury you and your relatives in provocative positions on your property. :anyone:
 
   / Do you own the dinosaur bones on your property? #4  
Fossil means mineral replacement. So these are minerals in a certain shape, but still minerals.
 
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All kinds of things to think about when you decide to sever the surface estate from the mineral estate on property.
 
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Wow

I saw something on tv about those fighting dinos. Seems to me they were mucho denero.

I think the comment about fossils being minerals is the answer. I’m on the wrong side again.

I was accepted to Gonzaga law school years ago but didn’t have the money. The lawyer in me now smells easy money, maybe a class action suit? Appeals court?

My buddie said I don’t own the wildlife on my land. I never really thought that I owned them.
 
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It would stand to reason that the Murrays received a small discount on the purchase by relinquishing some mineral rights in the sale. The expectation in such an arrangement would seem to logically be that any future revenue from mining or drilling would be split into thirds. It also seems reasonable that digging up bones for profit could be argued as a mining operation that the prior owners retained their interest in. I'm kinda surprised at this outcome.
 
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Interesting. I never thought too much about what goes into finding dinosaur bones and always just assumed it was something done by Universities with Grant Money and a bunch of students led by their Professor. Then my wife and I watched the TV show called Dino Hunters and learned more then we thought possible about dinosaurs and their fossils. Really one of the best shows that we've come across in quite awhile!!!!!

In the series, they talked about disputes with land owners and the people that find the dinosaur fossils, but they didn't go into any detail on what those disputes where. This might be one of them?

It also shows how difficult and time consuming it is to sell a dinosaur after getting it out of the ground. While the money is there, it might take a decade or longer to actually find a buyer with the cash to pay $7 or $8 million dollars for a T Rex.

If you haven't seen the show, I highly recommend it!!!

New Discovery Show Dino Hunters | Discovery
 
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I can see a lot of lawyers making a lot of money out of this one, but a little research my side of the pond shows.. Bone is made of calcium, calcium is a mineral. But animal bone is still not a mineral. A mineral is 1, naturally formed 2, inorganic 3 solid 4, with a specific chemical composition. Do the same definitions apply your side of the pond, only those I guess who have the biggest check book will find out.
 
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Another greedy claim to make some lawyers richer.

Just split the proceeds per the mineral agreement and move on.
 

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