Does anybody else make a vehicle like this?

JohnBoy45 · Aug 14, 2005

Hi, I'm looking for company that would make a vehicle like this one below that I can drive on the road and be street legal.

http://www.coldwarremarketing.com/images/5355326.jpg

The source of vehicle is here below.

http://www.coldwarremarketing.com/

Thanks, Terry

Bob_Skurka · Aug 14, 2005

Terry, the vehicle pictured is a Halflinger, I don't know if there were multiple contracts let for that vehicle or if it only came from one source, but I do know that there are multiple companies that sell them. Pinzgauer is one manufacturer who I know made the Halflinger When I was sourcing out an Akiv Snow Trac ST4 earlier this year I was also looking at the Studebaker Weasel. Both are small tracked vehilces, neither are street legal, but both share one thing in common with the Haflinger you are looking at. They are military surplus vehilces. In my searches, I found many Haflingers for sales, some here in the US and some foreign. I never bothered to research them fully, and didn't really look into the street legal issue simply because I was not intending to buy one. However, I would suggest you do some google or yahoo searches for "halflinger" "military surplus vehicles" or "pinzgauer" (you might want to double check my spellings to make sure they are correct before you do the searches!!!)

I ended up importing my own ST4 and would not recommend it if you want a street legal version. It took me about 3 months to arrange the importation, it was easy once it got put on the boat, but getting it ready to get to port was a huge PITA.

hobbyfarm · Aug 15, 2005

Steyr Puch Haflinger
Sorry the link "NO HABLA ENGLISH" /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif, but this is the best site on these since they were made in Austria.
I've always wanted one of these. They are street legal, but they are slow. They top out about 40+mph.

I have no idea if any other factories made these. After they stopped making these, Steyr made the Pinzgauer.

hobbyfarm · Aug 15, 2005

( ...looking for company that would make a vehicle like this one below that I can drive on the road and be street legal....)

Terry43,
As far as I can tell, you are looking for Forward Control Vehicles.

m-678.com
FC Jeep.com
The FC Connection
The Jeep Forward Control Page

Land Rover made one too:
Land Rover 101FC

hobbyfarm · Aug 15, 2005

Here is another page of likely links:

links

JohnBoy45 · Aug 16, 2005

Hi, Here is a picture of a vehicle made to be driven on the street and I wonder if any companys make a street legal Utility vehicle here in the states?

http://www.irco.com/pressroom/newsatir/bc/66893.html

Terry

Bob_Skurka · Aug 16, 2005

Terry, you won't find any of those vehicles street legal here in the US.

If you want a small utility vehicle that is street legal, you will have to find an OLD vehicle. The laws as written currently state that the current emmissions, saftey, bumper/impact requirements, etc laws are applied to all newly manufacturered vehicles for them to be street legal. Further, the same laws are applied to foreign vehicles.

I think this basic set of laws applies to all vehicles made after 1969? If not that date, then some date that basically says, if you want to drive it on the road, you won't be finding a new vehicle like any current RTV. I noticed you started another thread that shows a small truck, again, these same laws apply to that truck. Those little Japanese utility trucks, commonly called mini-trucks, are NOT street legal unless they are old. Again, I'm not sure of the year you have to go back to, but you need to look at roughly 30 year old vehicles if you want one to drive on the road. I would stongly suggest you dig up the law prior to starting your search.

SmittyII · Sep 8, 2005

The US Army made a similar vehicle called teh 1/4T Mule. it had 4 wheel steer, and an air-cooled engine in the rear. It isn't street-legal, however.

Here's the data for the Halflinger (translated with my fractured German):

Four cycle boxer (opposed cyl) motor, air cooled
# of cylinders: 2
Bore 3.149"/ Stroke 2.519"
Displacement 643 cc's (39.7 cu in)
Motor Power: 24 hp @ 4500 rpm
Torque: 4.2 mkp @ 3000 rpm
Compression Ratio: 7:1
Valve arrangement:
Camshaft: In crankcase, gear driven
Crankshaft: ????
Lubrication: Pressure system
Oil filter: full flow; micro filter media
Oil Cooler: flat tube
Oil Capacity: 2 liters (2.2 qts)
Cooling: Air Cooled w/ axial fan
Electrical System: 12 V battery and generator
Carburetor: Fallstrom downdraft
Fuel Pump: Mechanical diaphragm pump
Air Filter: Oil bath type
Engine location: At rear with transmission

Clutch: One dry plate
Manual Transmission: Indirect shift, 4 forward gears, 1 reverse gear, transfer case with 1.65: 1 ratio
Transmission mounting: with rear axle unit.
Axle System: 4 wheel drive by spiral cut gears and differential. Front axle driven by shaft from rear differential

Transmission ratios: 3.73/2.18/1.30/.71 forward; reverse 3.55:1
Axle ratio: 4.22 (9.38)
Tire ratio: Different possibilities: 3.0, 2.72, 2.38
Top Speed (@4500 rpm, depending on wheel ratio): 52 km/hr (31 mph);58 kph (36 mph); 64 kph (40 mph)
Steepest grade - 1st gear/dry soil. 65%
Maximum side grade: 45%
Differential lock: in both axle systems; hand shift on the fly.

Frame construction. Central tube system with both differential housings and transfer case; independent swing axles
Suspension: Front and rear coil springs with hollow rubber progressive springs and double acting hydraulic shock absorbers
Brake operation: Foot operated hydraulic brakes; special alloy brake drum with cast iron hub; welded backing plate. Hand brake actuates rear brakes.

Wheelbase: 1500mm (59")
wheel track 1130 mm (44.5") front & rear
Clearance 240mm (9.4") under axle housing in loaded condition
Ground clearance 300 mm (11.8")
Wading depth 500mm (19.7")
Turning circle 7meter (23')
Approach angle: 45% front; 40% rear
Greatest Length/Width: 2830mm/1350mm; 9.3 ft/4.43 ft
Greatest Height: 1740mm, 5.7 ft
Cargo area: ~2 sq meters (~2.2 sq yds)
Fuel tank Capacity: 30 liters, 9 gallons

Empty weight: ~ 600 kilograms, 1,320 lbs
payload: 500 kg, 1100 lbs
Max. wt: 2,420 lbs
Axle capacity: 1,100 lbs frt; 1,320 rear
Trailer wt:~ 660 lbs- no brakes

SmittyII

fishman · Sep 9, 2005

SmittyII, that ranks right up there as far as user's first posts with the most information in them! Translated no less! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Welcome to TBN.

SmittyII · Sep 9, 2005

Thanks for the welcome. I'm kinda looking for a utility vehicle for hunting and use in rough terrain. The Pinzgauer looks interesting, though the Halflinger would fit my needs better. I suspect that parts, etc. would be hard to find and expensive. However, if someone could adapt one of the US military 2 or 4 cylinder aircooled boxers (used in generators and pumps) then it might be a viable outfit.

SmittyII