I have a MFerguson 1533 bought new in 2010. I have always had problems hooking up and releasing the hydraulic couplers for the loader. I release the pressure with the joystick,and at the male couplers themselves, the dealer has worked on it twice while it was under warranty, and the problems continue. I spend more time hooking this thing up and trying to use it than its worth. The problems I have is that the hoses pop off at random, or the curl function wont work at times until I move the yellow or black couplers around. Most recently (yesterday) the curl function only worked at engine idle speed,stopping when I hit the pedal for more rpm. I took off one of the coupler assemblies and took it to a very competent hydraulic company, they told me that these couplers ARE NOT "quick connect", and require the collar be pushed back allowing the ball bearings to retract to lock the male end of the hose in place. Which seems logical to me. THE PROBLEM with this is that the female coupling is held with two snap rings which will not allow you to retract the collar on the female coupling.I dont know if this was a problem only on my machine (like a lemon or mistake from the factory) or what, but I would really appreciate any advice from others that may have had this problem.
Loader Does anyone else have this problem?
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Pressure on the loader side can be a problem if it gets bumped or moved during reconnect. Making sure the bucket cyl. is fully retracted is also important as the weight on the bucket will cause cylinder pressure and push the sealing balls in the fitting tips such that the connectors won't fully mate. If the loader cylinders are under any type of load (push or pull) it will be nearly impossible to get them back together once they are un-mated, a good indicator is if the sleeves seem "sticky" on disconnect you will need to adjust the parking position / location. Once there is line pressure on either end the connectors are a PIA.
balernbud
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They can be a issue if there is pressure in the hoses, put it sounds like there is more going on with yours, they should all most never come unplugged once connected and if it's not working then its probably not fully connected. It is a experience thing that the more you do you will get it. Lots of time they don't get fully connect when you first hook them up, if you try the hydraulics and they are not working fully then it's not plugged in all the way. OR you may have bad coupler on the side making it more difficult then it should be, this happens sometimes if the coupler has a nick on it, they must mate smoothly. Last option go to your local farm store and get a new pair, check them for locking together before install. Good luck.
Leejohn
Elite Member
Are sure they are not the brake away couplers? If they are just pull hard to uncouple and push hard in to couple.
gwdixon
Elite Member
Try using a dowel to release any pressure on the female side. The male side usually has a ball that can be pushed to release pressure. If that doesn't do it then there are other possibilities.
Break-away couplers may be being used. They sometimes require quite the tug or push to work correctly. But the hydraulic shop you took yours to would have told you that...I hope.
The standard couplers have to have a way to pull back the sleeve on the female side. They don't work otherwise. Since you are having connection failures and can't pull back the female sleeve there is something odd. Try rotating the female sleeve before pulling it back. Sometimes crud can foul the operation.
Lastly, take the couplers back to the hydraulic shop and have them show you the technique for coupling/uncoupling. You may even have to decide if you would be better off replacing the current ones with something the shop recommends for easier operation.
Break-away couplers may be being used. They sometimes require quite the tug or push to work correctly. But the hydraulic shop you took yours to would have told you that...I hope.
The standard couplers have to have a way to pull back the sleeve on the female side. They don't work otherwise. Since you are having connection failures and can't pull back the female sleeve there is something odd. Try rotating the female sleeve before pulling it back. Sometimes crud can foul the operation.
Lastly, take the couplers back to the hydraulic shop and have them show you the technique for coupling/uncoupling. You may even have to decide if you would be better off replacing the current ones with something the shop recommends for easier operation.
Thanks to all of you for your advice.All your ideas have already been tried many moons ago. My female couplers are attached through holes drilled thru a thick metal plate,and secured on each side of the plate with the snap rings.Which is why I cannot push the collar back.I am going to a place that specializes in hydraulic couplers tomorrow and hopefully can solve this issue.
dave1949
Super Star Member
That sounds just stoopid, how do they expect you to use it that way? I would remount those female connectors someway and be done with it.
gwdixon
Elite Member
Mounted the way you describe has to make them the push on/pull off kind. (break-away)
Good luck on finding a way to make them work better. The hydraulic shop should have some excellent ideas. Of course, their ideas will cost a fortune but at least the frustration will be eased.
Nothing worse than going out to do some work and spending half the time dealing with equipment failure issues.
Good luck on finding a way to make them work better. The hydraulic shop should have some excellent ideas. Of course, their ideas will cost a fortune but at least the frustration will be eased.
Nothing worse than going out to do some work and spending half the time dealing with equipment failure issues.
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