The lift mech... Funny..the pictures make it look kinda whimpy /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif But that's 1 3/4 pipe.When I bottom out the springs and I know it's time to quit loading her up. The box will hold a yard and a third of wet manure.I'm guessing 11 maybe 12 hundred pounds. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I can only get about three loads outta dem horses a week anyway...darned slackers!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif