Energy Hyd. Valve Question

   / Energy Hyd. Valve Question #1  

mntnvew

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Hi All,

I blew out an o-ring in a energy hydraulic valve I have on my log splitter, so I got a new o-ring and started to take off the spring detent cover and proceeded to unscrew the spring detention assembly and finally was able to remove and replace the blown o-ring.

I put it back together and tested.

It doesnt appear to be allowing me to retract the splitter, nor can i get it to "snap" into place (this is where the lever sticks and automatically stops when the splitter cylinder has retracted all the way; spring detention I believe).

Any ideas what I did wrong? Could it be an issue further into the valve? I stopped without removing the entire "rod" that was attached to the lever, should I take it apart all the way and replace all the rubber inside?

Could I have not put the spring detention ball bearings (4 small and 1 large) back in correctly?

Anyone familiar with this PLEASE :) help I live in rural MT and dont want to find a place that will fix it for the manufacturer.

Pictures can be taken if that will assist anyone!

Thanks!
BC
 
   / Energy Hyd. Valve Question #2  
Could I have not put the spring detention ball bearings (4 small and 1 large) back in correctly?

I think that is the problem.
 
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#3  
The end of the spring det assembly there are four holes in the rod, n/s/e/w, in these holes go the small ball bearings. The big one goes in between them. Then the 1 sleeve and then the thicker sleeve, that has 2 indentations on the inside that the small BB's fit into, and finally the spring det. cap goes on, am I missing something else?

I was just thinking, maybe I switched around the placement of the sleeves. 1 is just a spacer sleeve that goes around the spring det assembly, the other, as I said already, has the two indentations in it and is much thicker of a sleeve. Could I have put them on in the wrong order? I put the thin, spacer sleeve on first... Hmm.. thinking aloud.

Ps - I though I laid it out as I took it off, but I could have gotten something out of order I guess.

Pss - When I did this I wasnt aware there were BB's in their and they fell on the ground, I found 4 small and 1 large nothing more. Could there have been something else in there that fell out? I didnt see it but hey anything is possible.

THANKS!
 
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PS - No one has a diagram that shows how the BB's should go. I have the "closed center" item that came with the log splitter for closed hyd systems and it has directions with it, but no mention of BB's anywhere. I also reviewed the Energy Mfg website and they had some basic schematic stuff in PDF but nothing mentioned/showed BB's or their placement. :|

Kind of frustrating...
 
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Yes, very frustrating I am sure.

The detent in my AUX valve uses a different design according to your description, but the sleeves you mention is a definite possibility. Wish I could help more:mad:
 
   / Energy Hyd. Valve Question #6  
I have exactly the same problem with the energy valve on a Brave log splitter. I am sure it is an assembly problem but I can't get it right. You would think that somewhere on the Internet a drawing would be available. I just took the valve to the local small engine shop to see if he can fix it. If not I'm replacing it with a Prince valve from Northern Hydraulics.
 
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Please do let me know if your local small engine shop was in fact able to fix. I have taken that **** thing apart and put it back together a dozen times and no matter what I do it will NOT go back.

PS - I was told by Speeco I can take it to a local small engine shop and they would pay for it but I do NOT want to take the valve off the splitter because it looks like it will be a real bear to get back on due to the way the two NPT's thread into the cylinder. I guess I could take the entire log splitter to them... It just doesn't make sense that it doesn't work after I have put it back together so many times.

Thanks!
 
   / Energy Hyd. Valve Question #8  
PS - I was told by Speeco I can take it to a local small engine shop and they would pay for it but I do NOT want to take the valve off the splitter because it looks like it will be a real bear to get back on due to the way the two NPT's thread into the cylinder. I guess I could take the entire log splitter to them... It just doesn't make sense that it doesn't work after I have put it back together so many times.

Thanks!

Is this under warranty? Why don't you take it back where you bought it?
 
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i Bought it at a tractor supply in Billings, that is 300 miles away from me, no way am I travelling 600 miles round trip to fix. Fuel alone will cost me an arm and a leg.
 
   / Energy Hyd. Valve Question #10  
Well I picked it up, installed it, and it worked ok one way, would not work the other. Took it back and he reworked it, I put it back on, works ok both ways, but no detent and leaks bad around the cup on the end. I am tired of fooling with it and going to order a new valve. By the way I was just up to Lewistown to see my cousin. Where are you located?
 

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