Error Code F 09 and F 05 - engine dies

Slim B · Sep 6, 2022

Someone had asked about this error in another forum and I wanted to share my reply here...

I had been running my tractor very hard for several hours when it stalled out. I could get it cranked back up, but if I revved it more than just idle it would die. Eventually, it would start dying even while sitting in idle after a few seconds. And then I couldn't even get the engine to turn over. At first I was getting an F 09 code, and then F 05. Anyway, I was looking for a fix on my phone and thought I saw a Kioti error code list that said something about bad fuel, water in fuel, a faulty fuel cap, etc. And then something else about having pressure on the hydraulics. So I let the tractor rest for about ten minutes, dropped the 3 point hitch and front end loader and tried to crank it again, but no luck. Then I filled up the tank with fresh fuel (I was at half a tank), but that didn't work either. Eventually, I let the tractor sit for about an hour or so, pulled the fuel cap off, got it to crank and let it idle for about 5 mins then slowly revved it up to 2000 RPM and let it idle there for another 5 mins or so. I left the fuel cap off for while driving around for a bit and the tractor was fine for the rest of the day.

No clue what the actual problem was or whether I need to seek a long term fix. I had received the same F 09 and F 05 error codes once before when I had less than 10 hours on the tractor (I'm at 35 hrs now). I want to say that was for a cold start and I couldn't even get the engine to turn over, but I don't exactly remember. That time I left it alone and came back a few minutes later and it cranked up.

MichiganIron · Sep 7, 2022

Slim B said:
Someone had asked about this error in another forum and I wanted to share my reply here...

I had been running my tractor very hard for several hours when it stalled out. I could get it cranked back up, but if I revved it more than just idle it would die. Eventually, it would start dying even while sitting in idle after a few seconds. And then I couldn't even get the engine to turn over. At first I was getting an F 09 code, and then F 05. Anyway, I was looking for a fix on my phone and thought I saw a Kioti error code list that said something about bad fuel, water in fuel, a faulty fuel cap, etc. And then something else about having pressure on the hydraulics. So I let the tractor rest for about ten minutes, dropped the 3 point hitch and front end loader and tried to crank it again, but no luck. Then I filled up the tank with fresh fuel (I was at half a tank), but that didn't work either. Eventually, I let the tractor sit for about an hour or so, pulled the fuel cap off, got it to crank and let it idle for about 5 mins then slowly revved it up to 2000 RPM and let it idle there for another 5 mins or so. I left the fuel cap off for while driving around for a bit and the tractor was fine for the rest of the day.

No clue what the actual problem was or whether I need to seek a long term fix. I had received the same F 09 and F 05 error codes once before when I had less than 10 hours on the tractor (I'm at 35 hrs now). I want to say that was for a cold start and I couldn't even get the engine to turn over, but I don't exactly remember. That time I left it alone and came back a few minutes later and it cranked up.

Whenever you are logging Error Codes on a KIOTI Stage V Engine, you need to log the DTC and F Error Code Numbers. As the codes come up in the window, it will show DTC ----, then F ----. If there is more than one Error Code, they will be in succession starting with the DTC Number, then the F Number. Write down both the DTC and corresponding F Code for each error. Your dealer will be able to trace the error, but will need both the DTC and F numbers to properly identify the cause.

Hope this helps

sckarktx · Sep 11, 2024

I have a 2021 kioti ck3510, it now has 308 hrs on it and it just died and would restart. Run about 8 minutes and die again. It did this for a whole day until it died and no longer restarted.. I changed the fuel filter and primed the fuel system thinking maybe I had some bad fuel. After that it ran for about 30 to 45 seconds and died again. Cranks but won't restart. Cracked the injector lines loose to be sure it was getting fuel and it was. Closed the lines and it had an extended crank about 25 seconds until it started. Ran for 30 seconds and died. No restart. It had few code and I called the dealer. They said it was the cam and crank sensor. Changed them out and still no start. I cranked it for 45 seconds and nothing. Let it sit till the ne t day and charged tha battery up. Cranked and no start. I can crack the fuel lines at the injector and get fuel. It will start after that and then same problem runs 30 seconds and dies like shutting off the key. No restart. Code now is a 134 f 16 and it was either 4 f05 or 5 f04. Any clue what these codes are?

jonwarner · Sep 12, 2024

Tract down the service manual for your ck3510, look up the DTC (Diagnostic Service Code). I believe the mapping to the service manual is DTC XXXX FYY. XXXX is listed in the service manual under the column SPN and YY is the column FMI. A quick look in my DK manual, I'm not seeing a XXXX of 0134. I do have a XXXX FYY of 0004 F05 which is:

IMV CONTROL FAULT 2
1. IMV driver signal short circuit to battery (sc2vbatt)
fault is detected.
2. Rail pressure control feedback is too high.

But I'd find the ck3510 service or workshop manual.

EDIT: By "Tract down the service manual" I mean, google for "CK3510 service workshop manual PDF".

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/threads/kioti-workshop-manuals.331259

sckarktx said:
I have a 2021 kioti ck3510, it now has 308 hrs on it and it just died and would restart. Run about 8 minutes and die again. It did this for a whole day until it died and no longer restarted.. I changed the fuel filter and primed the fuel system thinking maybe I had some bad fuel. After that it ran for about 30 to 45 seconds and died again. Cranks but won't restart. Cracked the injector lines loose to be sure it was getting fuel and it was. Closed the lines and it had an extended crank about 25 seconds until it started. Ran for 30 seconds and died. No restart. It had few code and I called the dealer. They said it was the cam and crank sensor. Changed them out and still no start. I cranked it for 45 seconds and nothing. Let it sit till the ne t day and charged tha battery up. Cranked and no start. I can crack the fuel lines at the injector and get fuel. It will start after that and then same problem runs 30 seconds and dies like shutting off the key. No restart. Code now is a 134 f 16 and it was either 4 f05 or 5 f04. Any clue what these codes are?