Exporting new tractor to Europe

[EuroYanmar]

But CE doesn't matter if it just for your own private use, but be careful if you let other use it, here in Norway a lot of cheap excavators from Japan is sold, but you can't use it commercial.

For US cars there are exceptions so that's no problem.

Hi Agvg,

That's right.

If I buy a tractor it will be for my personal use on my personal property. No commercial use.
Where I live we have, like in Norway, a lot of grey market machines, from tractors to excavators, all non CE.
IMHO all this machinery is cheap because it's old. Have a look on the kubotas B7000 and B6000 or the Yanmar F series etc (no PTO guards, non ROPS) .

The question of using an US tractor inside EEC appears to me slightly different for two reasons :

- In the EEC only new tractors over 50 HP have a DPF. In US even the 35 HP to 50 HP have it. It means that the the north american market dedicated tractors complies with the antipollution EEC standard.
- In regards to the ROPS, I am really curious to learn if a US Yanmar YT347 Roll over protecting systmem is different or not from a EEC Yanmar YT347 Roll over protecting system. As both these tractors are made in Japan, mounting different ROPS system for each market would be a cost for the factory. That's the reason why I think they may complies with both standards.

Phil
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[Jchonline]

So what would the shipping costs be?

 

[EuroYanmar]

Some thoughts.
Tractors are generally designed to meet the EU safety standards. Emissions label is important. Examination at POE to determine whether the engine meets the applicable emissions standards for the year of manufacture.
I've purchased 2 cars that have been delivered to me in Europe. I needed to drive for a certain period of time (not very long) so they could be brought into the USA without import duty saving me 7% (yes, I know they say there is no duty on European cars coming into America but that is fake news). Was in Europe on business, taking delivery there saved my company rental car cost both times. However the cars were built to USA safety standards and could only be driven in Europe 30 days.
When the Euro was introduced as currency the exchange was 0.85 USD per EUR. Now it is about 1.15 USD per EUR. In the 1990s a large number of international companies purchased machinery in Europe and shipped it to the USA pocketing the savings.
Many John Deere, AGCO (Massey-Ferguson), CNH, and Kubota M7 tractors are built in Europe and exported to North America. Those manufacturers would not be doing that if they could build for less in North America.
Until the new European emissions standards come into effect there should be no problem. Probably wouldn't hurt to use the tractor before transit. Shipping in a container is much less expensive than roll on roll off. Make sure it meets all European standards including spectator noise (we always had European sound kits because it costs money to meet the level).
We could never understand why items like cars cost more from Europe while in my industry (construction equipment) we could build the exact same machine for significantly less in Europe than we could in North America. We're not talking small numbers either. 20 years ago the differential was 30%. For one thing US labor was much more expensive than European labor. The cost of medical benefits in the USA added to higher pay drove up labor cost. Yes, that government medical coverage in Europe comes at a cost but that cost is significantly lower than the medical benefits paid by top tier US companies.

Hi MHarryE,,
First I like this Diesel Cycle in your avatar (if I don't mistake !).
I appreciate too, your answer and I consider your analysis of the machinery business situation very acurate.
About the cost of medical coverage in Europe you are right too.
One have to know we do pay every month for this coverage. The payments are directly linked to the composition of our family and to our age (older you are, more you pay).
As you mentionned the difference is we don't pay to private companies whose goal is to make profit. We pay to a governemental structure only trying to keep the system working. That's why it is cheaper.

Phil

 

[EuroYanmar]

So what would the shipping costs be?

About 1000 $.

 

[EuroYanmar]

And for what European country do you want to take the tractor?

Hi Nuno,

We don't have a border with your country, but we have one with your neighbouring country !

Phil

 

[MHarryE]

The person talking about Norway - Norway isn’t part of the EU. Different standards. Of course my end was working with commercial customers so I’m not sure what individual users can get away with.

The EUs plan starting next year is all diesels will be DPF equipped. Current reg intended that but builders found a way around and soot continues so DPF everywhere.

As for cars, at least in France they got intense inspections. My car was cleaner burning so I got a sticker allowing me to drive in Paris on air quality alert days. Every 2 years I needed a complete inspection. If they found so much as an oil drip it’s off the road. I don’t know what they do with farm equipment.

We ex-pats were allowed a container of personal goods. One of my colleagues shipped a limited amount so he had room for a car in his container. He did the paperwork and it went. Nice thing about a container is it cost xxx whether packed full or half full so no extra charge to the company.

One day my crew went car shopping in Norway when we had a break. Car rides were staggering when compared to the same car in America. We are talking the same import from Japan. We asked our contact at the dealership and he told us that yes, prices are high, but also Norwegians make an incredible amount of money. He was taking delivery of a new mini-excavator to play with on his place. It got me to thinking - he was a lead mechanic and I was a 40+ year manager of engineering for a DOW 30 industrial company. Am I shortchanging myself. I was, and that winter I bought my own mini-excavator. Show those Vikings.

 

[Agvg]

Norway follow EU regulations to the letter, we are defacto members without any influence, the people voted NO twice, so the politicians made deal so close to a membership that they could get.