F14D Hydraulic/Gearbox Oil Change

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Bluest

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Yanmar F14D, DR Wheeled Trimmer
This'll be pretty routine tedious stuff to most of you, but as there is so little info about on the F14D I though it might be useful for any curious owners in the future.

Raising my 3ph was becoming a bit of a noisy and sluggish activity so I thought it was a good time to give the fluid and filters a refresh.

First job was to get a filter, not easy in the UK as there are no Yanmar parts suppliers to speak of, and certainly none that know anything about an F14D. Luckily, the part number was still visible so a bit of Googling found me just one UK merchant listing a cross reference with a stock item.

Original hydraulic filter: Capa CP-145VL-35
Cross referenced equivelent: Baldwin BT371-MPG made in the USA!!!




Onto finding a suitable oil. For some reason I could only find two brands of universal tractor oil widely available here, Fuchs and Morris, both reputable UK based oil blenders. I went for Fuchs Agrifarm STO Plus 10w30 in a 20 litre drum. now the maker claim you can use this as engine oil, as well as gearbox, hydraulic oil, so I'll use what I have left in the motor next time I change that.



So the onto the very easy task of changing the the oil. There are three drain plugs. On on each side of the bottom of the gearbox casing and a larger square plastic one on the left hand side further towards the front of the gearbox. As a first timer, the only thing I needed to be aware of was there is about 11 litres in the system, so have plenty of containers at the ready.



Whilst the oil is trickling out, I removed the hydraulic screen for cleaning. It is accessed from the right hand side of gearbox, thanks to TBNers for helping me find that! A large pipe enters the gearbox casing at a flange with three 10mm bolts. Unscrew the bolts, withdraw the the pipe and the screen comes out with it. You can just pull the screen off the end of the pipe and give the mesh a thorough clean. There is a small o ring that seals the pipe flange to gearbox. In an ideal world I'd have replaced that, but I didn't have one to hand, the old one looked in reasonable condition so I've reused it.





Next up, remove the spin on filter.. Located further forward under the right hand foot board. Near the brake pedals. Now my filter looked like it had never been changed and required a good swing on the chain wrench to get it to move. But move it did and once off I cleaned the sealing face to make sure the new filter wouldn't drip. The new filter went straight back on with just a smear of oil on the seal.





The only thing left is to put the screen back in, replace all the drain plugs and fill with oil. Once it's topped up to the top of the dipstick, I ran the engine and operated the 3ph for a short while. On stopping and checking the level it had dropped by about a litre, so I topped up and we are all done. Easy!
 
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Nice write up. I must admit that is a first for me with a lubricant useable in the engine and transmission. I was so doubtful I googled it and sure nuff, that is what it says.
 
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Nice write up. I must admit that is a first for me with a lubricant useable in the engine and transmission. I was so doubtful I googled it and sure nuff, that is what it says.

I worry a bit about it being a sort of Jack of all trades, master of none, but Fuchs have an excellent reputation so I'll not lose too much sleep over it. I didn't really have any readily available alternative anyway.
 
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Yeah those oils worry me. My friend has a Yuchai excavator and he was told to use a particular engine oil in his hydraulics (Japanese hydraulic pump on the back of a cummins 4 cyl diesel) but even after consulting the selling dealer couldn't bring himself to put engine oil in hydraulics, I wouldn't either personally.
 
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Well, it's done now, so I guess I'll be able to tell you how it goes! The choice of available UTO is very limited here it seems, and most of them do engine, gearbox and hydraulic. Whether I'll use it in the engine, I don't know yet.
 
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I think you can use ATF or "Automatic Transmission Fluid" in them. I know the older YM powershift tractors you could, not sure abut the F tractors though? Maybe someone here will know more?

I too would be skepticle of that oil? I dont know of anything like that here in the states? And seems like you would of heard of it as it would be cheaper to produce one oil, maybe it costs a useer more as there have to be more addatives and were a country of the cheapest product ussually wins? or maybe an oil like that cant pass EPA energy savings or API oil tests?
 
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Maybe I'll start a new thread in oil forum about this stuff. It seems the main USP is that the farmer only needs one oil for most/all applications round the farm keeping things simpler. Whether that's a good thing, I don't know.
 
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i understand the point to it and see it. But there is differences to everything, i can see how it could work, but i was thinking most UTF was 10w-20 in weight so this is a bit thicker and i use 15w40 in my tractor so its thicker than the 30w oil your useing.

So true it can be done it does not match the specs on my applications. Also the addative packs must be way different. Do they harm each system, probably not, does it cost more to run engine oil add packs in your transmission, probably so? Easier to just buy big drums and fill everything from them, mostlikey??? i dunno id be interested.
 

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