Fair price for MX5000DT with FEL & 4560BH?

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Patrickmtrs

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What should a fair price be for a 2002 MX5000DT Ag tires, with 890 hours, with FEL & 4560 Backhoe, stored in a pole barn since new?
 
   / Fair price for MX5000DT with FEL & 4560BH?
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Loader is an LA852...
 
   / Fair price for MX5000DT with FEL & 4560BH? #3  
Tractor plus loader... several advertised for $16,000 to $20,000 asking price. $16,000 sounds better to me for a good one.

Backhoe... hard to say... they don't come up for sale very often. I have a 4560 that we bought new for around $8,000 in 2004. The 4560 was made from 1990 to 2005 (approximate), so it would depend on what condition it's in. Good, heavy-duty hoe with lots of power.

That would be a darn good setup if the price is right.
 
   / Fair price for MX5000DT with FEL & 4560BH?
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Granddad4: Thanks for the info, what's your overall opinion of the 4560 as far as power, speed, etc?
 
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The 4560 has done some serious work around our place and I am very happy with it. It was originally built for the L series Kubotas in the early 90's, maybe even late '80's, so it's not all the latest design, but it's a heavy, rugged hoe meant for commercial level of work. It was marketed to cemeteries, landscapers and the like, as well as for property owners.

It's a very powerful hoe. If you read the specs, you'll see it has a curl breakout force of 6,000 lbs, which exceeds that of the current Kubota L45 construction TLB. I can attest to that power, as it will rip or split any tree root I've encountered. It will literally lift either end of the 7,000+ lb tractor, depending on whether you're pushing or pulling.

It runs with a pto pump, so there's no need for rear hydraulic remotes. That's simpler in some respects, but it made the 4560 heavier and more expensive because of the pump, plumbing and hydraulic reservior. It also has a very heavy subframe setup. The attach/detach routine is similar to other Kubota backhoes, and is pretty simple once you've done it a few times.

If there's one drawback to the 4560, I think it's the joystick control valve array, which require a pretty fine touch. I think it was made with the presumption it would be used by a skillful operator. In my case, that was presuming a bit too much since at first everything moved way too fast for my comfort, but with practice I have improved in operating the hoe.

Here are photo's of the tractor with backhoe, the dis-mounted hoe itself and the subframe. The tractor is an L4610, similar in size to the MX5000, also with the LA852 loader.
 

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   / Fair price for MX5000DT with FEL & 4560BH?
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Thanks Grandad4, the pictures are great! What a beautiful machine! I didn't realize quite how substantial the subframe was, really impressive. Clearly this isn't some toy backhoe like some of the smaller models. I am zeroing in on this setup, if the price isn't too high. As regards backhoe's my last machine was a Case 580 Super E extendahoe, so I really am looking for something substantial, obviously a 4560 isn't in that class, but for a midsize machine the 4560 looks to be perfect. Your comments definitely help!
 

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