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Hi everyone I have a 1964 Farmall 706 with a 263ci gas motor that I just overhauled. I all went really well until I tried to start it. It is knocking really loud! I believe its the number 1 cyl. Not sure tho will check into it tomorrow. Can you give me advice on what to look for, and if you have had any similar experiences! Man dose this suck but its a learning experience! Thanks in advance! Any info will be greatly appreciated!
 
   / farmall 706 problems #2  
Is it a rod knock, or main bearing knock?
 
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How can you tell the difference?
 
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How can you tell the difference?

I stole the following rather than type it all out. :)

1. PISTON SLAP: Makes a sharp metallic noise. Idle engine and short out each cylinder plug. The noise will disappear when plug with bad piston is shorted. Noise will also disappear at acceleration. This can be caused by worn or out of round cylinder, or broken piston ring. Correct problem by re-boring cylinder and/or replacing piston.

2. VALVE NOISE: Makes clicking or rattle noise. Caused by excessive wear on valve stem or lifter, out of adjustment, or stuck valve. Correct by adjusting valve clearance, replace worn valve or lifter, regrind cam, replace valve guide and /or valve. A stuck valve can sometimes be loosened by passing oil through the carburetor while engine is running.

3. ROD BEARING KNOCK: Makes sharp metallic noise similar to a piston slap. Detection is opposite of piston slap. Rod knock is not heard at idle. Knock becomes louder as engine speed is increased. Caused by excessive rod bearing clearance. Correct by adjusting rod bearing clearance to .0015 inches by removing shims. May require re-pouring rod bearing.

4. REAR MAIN BEARING KNOCK: Makes dull knocking or thud noise. Detected at speeds between 20 and 50 MPH. Knock will normally decrease or disappear while pulling or decelerating. Noise will be detected the loudest at normal driving speed, when not pulling or decelerating. Correct by adjusting bearing clearance to .001 to .0015 inches. If knock is excessive, crank should be checked for out of roundness. May need to re-pour all main bearings to correct.

5. WRIST PIN SLAP: This can not be detected by shorting out the cylinder plugs. Rapidly accelerate and decelerate the engine speed. The engine will pass through a certain speed range when the wrist pin will rattle at about the same pitch as a valve tappet noise. This can be corrected by installing a new wrist pin bushing in the rod or new wrist pin f badly worn. Wrist pin should fit the piston and connecting rod with a tight metal to metal fit. The pin can be pushed into the piston and rod with a slight pressure of the hand. Pin to rod clearance is .0003 to .0005 inches.
 
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OK I started it back up and had it running at a idle. It was making the knocking noise and I pulled every plug wire and it didn't change the noise? It makes it threw all the rpm range! What should be my next step?
 
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take it back apart a check everything before you really mess something up
 
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Is the knock in rhythm with the rpms, or more random? Wondering if you have too much end play in the crank. Does pushing in the clutch change the knock? Otherwise, I agree with whis.
Jim
 
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It seams to speed up with the rpm. I have already drop the oil pan I am going to tear it back down just was wondering what area and what I need to be looking for?
 
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Is the knock in rhythm with the rpms, or more random? Wondering if you have too much end play in the crank. Does pushing in the clutch change the knock? Otherwise, I agree with whis.
Jim

In rhythm with rpms.
 
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What condition was the engine in before you overhauled it? Was the crankshaft turned? Did you gauge the bearings during reassembly?
 

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