FECON DCR

   / FECON DCR #21  
I was in Conroe Texas we put 10 hrs on it there in heavy brush and wood debris piles that were being hauled in and they were hauling out red clay. We were using our raptor 800. John took us over and showed us the teeth that was removed and had 450 hrs on them and had not been flipped. the only reason they were changed was to do some testing on the new batch for the factory if i understood correctly. After working on and being around tub grinders and horizonal grinders for some time I was impressed any tooth lasted close to that amount of hours. The RT200 that I have here is equiped with what they call a rock tooth. The machine currently has 50hrs on thoose teeth and show very little to no wear. They seem to work very well in heavy wood and brush. I hit some pit run that was buried in some black berry bushes and was sure to break a tooth but not so. Also hit a large choker cable still all good. I thought that would suck to get out but not that bad, the head will free wheel and was able to tie it to a tree and back up and pulled it out from the drum using the machine. Any one know if you can do that with a hyd. head?
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   / FECON DCR #22  
I was in Conroe Texas we put 10 hrs on it there in heavy brush and wood debris piles that were being hauled in and they were hauling out red clay. We were using our raptor 800. John took us over and showed us the teeth that was removed and had 450 hrs on them and had not been flipped. the only reason they were changed was to do some testing on the new batch for the factory if i understood correctly. After working on and being around tub grinders and horizonal grinders for some time I was impressed any tooth lasted close to that amount of hours. The RT200 that I have here is equiped with what they call a rock tooth. The machine currently has 50hrs on thoose teeth and show very little to no wear. They seem to work very well in heavy wood and brush. I hit some pit run that was buried in some black berry bushes and was sure to break a tooth but not so. Also hit a large choker cable still all good. I thought that would suck to get out but not that bad, the head will free wheel and was able to tie it to a tree and back up and pulled it out from the drum using the machine. Any one know if you can do that with a hyd. head?
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A hydraulic head will reverse and I have done it to back wire off. Not fun and hitting a choker cable would really make it a bad day!

Conroe is dirt. Some of the meanest, ugliest, and roughest ground for mulching is in S. Central Texas Hill Country. Bring that head down here and you will get a real test that you can use as a bench mark for tough conditions. I've hit everything from old fence and wire to oil field pipe, tires, and hard as rock oak trees mixed in with jagged limestone. flint, and dirty cedar stumps. I run my machine on crawl speed and mulch material that is bigger than what I'm rated for but take my time because of the above obstacles. The flint is by far the worst of the rock I have to worry about and I try not to work around it but sometimes it's unavoidable. One part of the county I live in is mostly limestone and the other has a lot of flint mixed with limestone so it's unavoidable.

I get really good tooth life out of my FAE. It does light years better than the Tushogg I started with a dozen years ago when I literally bought buckets of teeth at $10/pop which was cheap but the teeth on the FAE, if I do hit metal, are expensive. I run cobra teeth in the middle of my drum (10 double-sided cobras) and the rest are double carbides with rock teeth on the outer edge of the drum. I have not tried sharpening the cobra teeth. They dull quickly but are the cat's meow for milling stumps and big logs.

Overall I love my FAE but want the lower profile head. If I was mulching full time, I'd get a bigger machine and look at other options for mulching technology but I fit a niche market right now and can grow as big or as little as I want so I count my blessings every day!
 
   / FECON DCR #23  
the location I ran the 800 was conroe but I would have to speak with John from Romec to see were else he has demo the machine before that and after that. I know they had a demo in Arkanas with Oak over 20 inch and that machine from what I heard loved that szie of material. Does your head has replaceable wear plates in the head? Do you have any troubles with hyd. oil temp in the hot weather? One of the things that impress me was with the drive system of the prinoth Hyd. oil stays very low in ruff hot envirioments. Were I am from trees and brush gets very heavy and large I have not seen any thing the 800 wont eat, even large piles of stumps and chunk wood. The rt200 seems to like the 12 inch and down size but seemed to handle larger if it was dried out a bid. The other thing that impresses me was the depth in the soil these machines can grind. IF budget were no problem we would all die with the most and best toys. Kids have Tokna Big boys taste just cost more .
 
   / FECON DCR #24  
Those are great stats and specs but one thing you are forgetting, you are comparing an 630hp machine to lesser hp units. It is a beast and does have some unique features. Alot of other machine's had uniques features as well and as the hours rack up problems arise. I think Fecon might have some input from their 600 to add. Everybody knows a new Corvette will outrun a Ford Fusion, but your not really comparing apples to apples there. All mulchers have an achilles heal, just have to find it and see which one you want to deal with repair in the field. By the way, the 800 looked like a house sitting there at Conexpo!!
 
   / FECON DCR #25  
Those are great stats and specs but one thing you are forgetting, you are comparing an 630hp machine to lesser hp units. It is a beast and does have some unique features. Alot of other machine's had uniques features as well and as the hours rack up problems arise. I think Fecon might have some input from their 600 to add. Everybody knows a new Corvette will outrun a Ford Fusion, but your not really comparing apples to apples there. All mulchers have an achilles heal, just have to find it and see which one you want to deal with repair in the field. By the way, the 800 looked like a house sitting there at Conexpo!!

you beat me to the punch. Not apples to apples at all
 
   / FECON DCR #26  
the location I ran the 800 was conroe but I would have to speak with John from Romec to see were else he has demo the machine before that and after that. I know they had a demo in Arkanas with Oak over 20 inch and that machine from what I heard loved that szie of material. Does your head has replaceable wear plates in the head? Do you have any troubles with hyd. oil temp in the hot weather? One of the things that impress me was with the drive system of the prinoth Hyd. oil stays very low in ruff hot envirioments. Were I am from trees and brush gets very heavy and large I have not seen any thing the 800 wont eat, even large piles of stumps and chunk wood. The rt200 seems to like the 12 inch and down size but seemed to handle larger if it was dried out a bid. The other thing that impresses me was the depth in the soil these machines can grind. IF budget were no problem we would all die with the most and best toys. Kids have Tokna Big boys taste just cost more .

Running a skid steer and mulcher in S. Texas in the summer means that if I don't keep the radiator clean, it will get hot. I haven't had any problems but I get calls and emails from other guys who have problems. It's not always what you can see in the radiators, it's what's caked inside.

As far as wear parts. The FAE has some but it is made of hardox which is supposed to last a little longer. In the abrasive rock it still gets dings inside the mulching chamber but so far, so good but I baby my machinery compared to others I've seen.
 
   / FECON DCR #27  
we have ran against the fecon 600 in Arkanas and would be happy to do it any time. I agree, all machines have problems they are machines, if it has tracks or tires it will give you trouble. But you must consider phyisics evertime you convert energy there is loss of energy. this loss is a pure law of physics. All i am saying the design is different and deserves to be giving a chance to prove its value or not. If what is out there is soild and we have nothing to add to the market we will go away like so many others that have come and gone before us. On the other hand if this is something that sets the standard bench mark then the wind of change will blow on with out some one. If you donot keep up with change it will leave you behind.
 
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#28  
we have ran against the fecon 600 in Arkanas and would be happy to do it any time. I agree, all machines have problems they are machines, if it has tracks or tires it will give you trouble. But you must consider phyisics evertime you convert energy there is loss of energy. this loss is a pure law of physics. All i am saying the design is different and deserves to be giving a chance to prove its value or not. If what is out there is soild and we have nothing to add to the market we will go away like so many others that have come and gone before us. On the other hand if this is something that sets the standard bench mark then the wind of change will blow on with out some one. If you donot keep up with change it will leave you behind.

Bring it down here ill run it for a few days and we see just how good they are!
 
   / FECON DCR #29  
there are machines closer to you in conroe texas, later this month we are doing demos is oregon if you want to come up here we would be happy to have you! Would be great to have some one with a lot of industry knowledge.
 
   / FECON DCR
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#30  
there are machines closer to you in conroe texas, later this month we are doing demos is oregon if you want to come up here we would be happy to have you! Would be great to have some one with a lot of industry knowledge.

Ya'll need to just bring to down here, an do a demo we have plenty of property to run it on to give folks a idea of what she will do.
 

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