Tires Finally got my tires loaded

[Wyld Bill]

I somehow got a flat already so I decided to take the tires off & get them loaded. Just decided to run them out to a local tire shop & have them do them. They out tubes in them then filled them half way with calcium/water. It was more than I figured it would be at $245 but oh well at least it's done now & I can feel the difference for sure.

 

[jwcinpk]

What made you decide to use calcium?
Non toxic antifreeze is what evryone here is using.

 

[POC]

Since He had the tubes put in, it probably won't be much of a problem. But it used to really be bad at rusting out rims. Antifreeze/water, or windshield wiper fluid is what I'm planning on using.
I'm surprised they didn't fill them more than 50%. I thought 75-80% was more the norm.
As a side question: Does it do any good to fill the front tires on a 2wd tractor?

 

[Savagepike]

The low temp washer fluid I loaded mine with has worked great so far. I checked them on the coldest day last winter (right at 0) and still all liquid. But whatever their loaded with, it makes a heck of a difference for sure.

 

[POC]

I wonder what the differece in weight is between Calcium Chloride, Water + Antifreeze and Wiper Fluid. Interesting fact finding...

 

[SPYDERLK]

I wonder what the differece in weight is between Calcium Chloride, Water + Antifreeze and Wiper Fluid. Interesting fact finding...

About 3# per gallon in favor of the CaCl [11#]. Anti freeze mix is a little above water which is 8#. Washer fluid and water alcohol blends are the lightest. Rimguard, beet juice, is right up there with CaCl but costs several times as much.
larry

 

[POC]

So that's why people still go with CaCl.

Thanks,
Patrick

 

[coffeeman]

I somehow got a flat already so I decided to take the tires off & get them loaded. Just decided to run them out to a local tire shop & have them do them. They out tubes in them then filled them half way with calcium/water. It was more than I figured it would be at $245 but oh well at least it's done now & I can feel the difference for sure.

How many gallon did it take?

When you say you can feel the difference are you refering to ride or do you do heavy work with the tractor and that's why it's better?

Coffeeman

 

[coffeeman]

Since He had the tubes put in, it probably won't be much of a problem. But it used to really be bad at rusting out rims. Antifreeze/water, or windshield wiper fluid is what I'm planning on using.
I'm surprised they didn't fill them more than 50%. I thought 75-80% was more the norm.
As a side question: Does it do any good to fill the front tires on a 2wd tractor?

I have a big brush hog for my tractor. I can pick it up ok. But, the fromt of tractor is a little light and sort of floats along. I usually keep hog down to make tractor stable. I was wondering if front wheel water would help that problem out. I thought I'd try it.

Coffeeman

 

[Savagepike]

I have a big brush hog for my tractor. I can pick it up ok. But, the fromt of tractor is a little light and sort of floats along. I usually keep hog down to make tractor stable. I was wondering if front wheel water would help that problem out. I thought I'd try it.

Coffeeman

A word of caution... I've always been told to never fill the front tires. I'm not sure the technical reasoning behind this, but since it's been said so many times, it might be safer to follow the consensus.

 

[SPYDERLK]

I have a big brush hog for my tractor. I can pick it up ok. But, the fromt of tractor is a little light and sort of floats along. I usually keep hog down to make tractor stable. I was wondering if front wheel water would help that problem out. I thought I'd try it.

Coffeeman

If your front tires are fairly large it will help a lot. 3benefits: weight to keep the front planted, weight not supported by the axle/bearings, tires have a higher compression ratio so the unladen air pressure can be less - it actually seems to ride better due to this. Be more careful over very bumpy sections because you will have lost some 'spring'.
larry

 

[MtnViewRanch]

A word of caution... I've always been told to never fill the front tires. I'm not sure the technical reasoning behind this, but since it's been said so many times, it might be safer to follow the consensus.

I very well could be wrong, but I believe that there are a hand full of us that have all 4 tires filled. For me, the benefits of having the tires filled far outweigh any negatives. The only draw back that I can see would be if you had a smaller tractor and did a lot of finish lawn mowing.

 

[RobJ]

I've never really thought about this much so I looked in the manual and found this...

Fronts, only add metal weights, to bumper, max 220 pounds.

Rears - wheel weights or liquid.
wheel weights - 185# per side max

liquid - only 75% full, do not fill tires if tractor is a CAB model

----------------------9.5x24---------11.2x24
2# of cacl2 per gal-----165#-----------227#
3.5#-------------------178#-----------237#
5#---------------------187#-----------253#

I had these big fat turfs on there first, it dosn't list those but I bet they help more water.

weight is each tire and the more cacl2 means more freezing protection. Not to much worry about that in east Texas. I just ordered the tool form gemplers. I have the 11.2x24 and tubed tires. Now where can I get some Cacl2?

For the math wizzards, can I calculate in the info that I have that the tire holds 8.6666 gallons of water? May not be able to with the info given. The manual doesn't say how much.

 

[SPYDERLK]

----------------------9.5x24---------11.2x24
2# of cacl2 per gal-----165#-----------227#
3.5#-------------------178#-----------237#
5#---------------------187#-----------253#

I had these big fat turfs on there first, it dosn't list those but I bet they help more water.

weight is each tire and the more cacl2 means more freezing protection. Not to much worry about that in east Texas. I just ordered the tool form gemplers. I have the 11.2x24 and tubed tires. Now where can I get some Cacl2?

For the math wizzards, can I calculate in the info that I have that the tire holds 8.6666 gallons of water? May not be able to with the info given. The manual doesn't say how much.

No, you need one more piece of info. I have done tests with CaCl added to distilled water. 5# added to a gallon makes a solution that weighs 10.6# per gallon. Dividing that into 187 gives somewhere around 18 G/tire.

BTW 6#/G yields an 11#/G solution

7#/G gives 11.4/G but some of the salt precipitates out at 0F. Bottom of tire will be a little slushy with salt until it warms back up.
larry

 

[RobJ]

That's probably close enough for a guess. 18 gallons per tire.

Interesting.

Thanks,
Rob

 

[Charlesaf3]

I have all 4 tires foam filled on a light tractor. No problem on my lawn. I love the effects generally.

 

[RobJ]

I have all 4 tires foam filled on a light tractor. No problem on my lawn. I love the effects generally.

I have heard that is heavy and makes for a rough ride. Maybe not a problem on a smaller tractor. I have a friend that foamed his ATV tires. His comments were...expensive, work fine, but killed the ATV ride. He did not recommend it for ATV's. I think for my smaller front tires it would be great.

 

[jeffreytucker]

Just got my mahindra 3510 front tires filled with the polyurethane foam. I will hopefully put it to work next week. little expensive but cheaper then putting new tires on it all the time.

 

[Crossroads]

Just got my mahindra 3510 front tires filled with the polyurethane foam. I will hopefully put it to work next week. little expensive but cheaper then putting new tires on it all the time.

How does this help with reducing tire replacement? Does the foam prevent flats, or does it help with wear as well?

For those using liquids, other than reducing the center of gravity and increasing overall weight, are there any other advantages? Isn't there a concern of rusting rims by having them constantly immersed in water? Any concern over the chemcal reaction between calcium chloride and aluminum or steel rims, if known?

Lastly how would one go about loading tires, and what would be the optimum tire filling stuff, foam, wahesr fluid, antifreeze/water mix, cal chlor?

Thanks
KC

 

[RobJ]

How does this help with reducing tire replacement? Does the foam prevent flats, or does it help with wear as well?

For those using liquids, other than reducing the center of gravity and increasing overall weight, are there any other advantages? Isn't there a concern of rusting rims by having them constantly immersed in water? Any concern over the chemcal reaction between calcium chloride and aluminum or steel rims, if known?

Lastly how would one go about loading tires, and what would be the optimum tire filling stuff, foam, wahesr fluid, antifreeze/water mix, cal chlor?

Thanks
KC

Wear..IMO would be the same as not filled. For some reason I think if anything...more wear if the tire can't flex as much.

Mine have tuges, no metal contact. Check my recent posts for filling with water as a DIY and using a $15 tool.

Rob