Chains Fire Hose over Binding Chains ??

[deerhunterf350]

Any one use this method?

How well does it protect painted areas?

Or does the Chain just cut through the Hose, and scratch paint anyway?

 

[scott_vt]

Hi Dan,
I have used it to haul my old Farmalls. If you are in a rural area, go to your local volunteer FD and ask if they have any scrap 2 1/2" dia double jacketed hose. Tell them you only need a few small pieces. More than likely they can help you out. Those hose lines usually dont last more than ten years. I have been a member in our local FD for the past 25 yrs and have helped some of my friends this way!

Eventually the chain will break through the canvas but it takes awhile. In the mean time you can just rotate the hose around when touching metal parts.

 

[Dex]

I have hose on all my chains. I keep 1 3/4 and 2 1/2 hose on hand. It works well but it will mare the paint. But it beats the hard scratch and chips that you would get without it. It also beats the fact that if you use straps and not chains that you might not have a tractor to scratch.

 

[neverenough]

FWIW, I use old carpet with the heavy duty woven backing.

 

[neverenough]

It also beats the fact that if you use straps and not chains that you might not have a tractor to scratch.

Huh??? Been using car ratchet straps for years to secure large tractors and trucks on the trailers, not even close to having any type of problem. Matter of fact, I prefer securing the front with chains and the back with the ratchet straps, it holds the load in place much better than chains and binders alone.

 

[Dex]

I secured my tractor the other day with a strap. (I was in a hurry) I was going down the road about 5 miles. Hit a pot hole in the road and the strap cut almost in two. Alot of force is generated on those straps when unexpected things happen. Never again!!!!!!!

 

[neverenough]

I secured my tractor the other day with a strap. (I was in a hurry) I was going down the road about 5 miles. Hit a pot hole in the road and the strap cut almost in two. Alot of force is generated on those straps when unexpected things happen. Never again!!!!!!!

Were these straps that you normally use to strap down hay bales, or other objects, or were they car straps??? Remember, car dolly's ALL uses straps to secure the car to the trailer, but again, they were designed for this. A strap is not a strap. There are many types out there, they can not all be lumped into one catagory. The straps I use are specifically designed for 4 point securing of wheeled loads like cars, trucks, and tractors. I agree, most all the "tie down" straps are not designed to pull on a load, to secure it, but some are. It is also very important to check your straps before every use. Even the slightest nick in the webing can cause a severe tear, if not total failure, with very little shock.

 

[6or7dazeaweek]

TSC has what they call axle straps. They're 2"x24" and have a "D" ring on each end/ Rated for 3300# safe working load. I think I paid around $7 each for them.

Jon

 

[Soundguy]

I secured my tractor the other day with a strap. (I was in a hurry) I was going down the road about 5 miles. Hit a pot hole in the road and the strap cut almost in two. Alot of force is generated on those straps when unexpected things happen. Never again!!!!!!!

Her is my view... You probably had the strap in a compromising position.. like against a sharp or flat angled surface.

I'm also one of those guys that use ratchet straps, or a front chain plus ratchet straps. I carry scrap burlap that i wrap arounf my chain or straps at pinch or sharp points to prevent scratching, galling, or cutting.

I also use straps that are 3x rated for my load, plus use multiple straps..e tc.

Everyone has their own experience..and that will dictate what you use. Considering I work for a GC.. I get to see lots of semi trucks in and out of our yard. I see both straps and chains..

Lots of cargo comes in on flatbeds with nothing but 3" and 4" straps holding it down.. large multi-ton concrete precast aprts.. large metal parts.. assemblies.. etc. However...both have their problems.

straps can degrade from fraying or weather.. they can stretch when old.

Chains -do- break. Hook ends pop.. pins holding ends pop.

Loads can shift and loosen chains and straps. If you are not carefull, a chain can catch and appear to be tight and then loosen right up and have lots of slack.

Keep in mind that if you have a 5000# piece of equipment running down the road and hit a ditch.. It's likely that the chain may snap from a shock load.. that a stake pocket may rip off.. that the lip ont he trailer that you are chained to may fail.. etc. Shock loads can generate man multiples of the payloads weight in force very quickly.

I've seen my share of transport grade chain snap on what i though was a 'no brainer' setup. i've seen low speed mishaps where chains deformed or sheard.. Would a strap have made it? Dunno... Don't want to recreate the accident to find out.

best bet is to choose a method that is in compliance with the laws int he area where you travel, and that you feel safe about... can't do much more than that.

( besides chocking tires, setting brakes, and other safety tidbits.. etc. insurance coverage.. etc. )

Soundguy

 

[Dex]

I agree. I see transportatin mishaps all the time in my line of work. The strap was a 10,000 lb rated transportation strap. It was loaded correctly and not against any sharp objects. It was the shock load that caused its demise. My mode of operation is to check my load evey time I park for something.