/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif.....yer right .... re: In the pic with me lifting a pile of lumber the iron is flat and it worked really well cause that pile was sitting on concrete blocks ... but when I tried to dump the load on a flat boardwalk made of landscape timbers & treated 2Xs .... oops .... I tipped the bucket a bit too much and the next thing I knew I had the front of the tractor in the air! Lifted with the tips of the channel ... forward to the pic with that tooth thingy attached ... bucket is level.... forks are not .... they're bent .. but ya know what - they work great for getting under brush piles and scooping them up with that curve in 'em. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif ... sort of bad news good news -- bad news = I bent the forks. good news = my welds held.... bad news = forks are bent. good news = bent forks work for scooping up old piles of brush....... HOWEVER --- I will be making new ones again someday and have learned that I can't do it on the cheap like I did this time.