Fluid amount in tires.

[Jeepnford]

I'm considering putting rim guard in my rear tires but I'm not sure if I want to go with the maximum fill. Are there drawbacks to using small amounts of fluid,maybe 10-15 gallons per tire?

 

[john_bud]

less weight, less stability, less traction, less cost.

1 & 4 are positives and 2&3 are negatives. I want to maximize 2&3 at the expense of #1 while minimizing #4. Your goals may differ.

If you were talking about Cacl2, it would corrode the inside of the rim quick if metal parts were allowed to hit air. (You MUST fill over the top of the steel rim when using CaCl2) With WWF and rim-guard that isn't the case.

 

[Jeepnford]

I have 300 lbs of wheel weights but since I finally have a loader mounted I want to add some more ballast,but with the weights I thought I might not need a full load.

 

[radioman]

what kind of a tractor you want to add the rimguard to ? I recently added rimgaurd to the tires myself in the bx24 rears. I went with the max i can put in the tires since the little tractor is tippy and bouncy. Do you have a specific reason why you dont want to go with the normal max fill ? about 75 percent.

 

[john_bud]

If you don't mow the house yard with it, fill the tires all the way. The extra stability and traction is great and the drawbacks are minor for a part time operator with just one machine.

jb

 

[Reg]

Assuming you aren't running duals, 75 % at 12 o'clock.
If you ARE running duals, 40% at 4 o'clock (but you probably wouldn't need to ask).
(source firestoneag.com)

 

[Jeepnford]

The main reason(not necessarily valid) for not filling them entirely is so I can remove a tire by myself if needed. BTW,this is about a large frame Case DX35.

 

[john_bud]

I do mine alone filled with CaCl2. 16.9x24's R4's and 420x70-24's. It's not as hard as you may fear. Remounting them, I can spin them (rotate) to align the lugs with the holes in place. I would just fill to the gills and be done.

Actually, I'd have a tire service come out, put in tubes, fill with CaCl2 and pocket some left over $$ that it would have cost if I were to bring the machine to a place to do the rimguard.

jb

 

[rdbrumfield]

Do Not fill the tire completely. The tire will not have any give, will be like riding on a steel wheel. If anything wants to poke it there is no give and is easier to rip up a tire.

 

[LBrown59]

what kind of a tractor you want to add the rimguard to ? I recently added rimgaurd to the tires myself in the bx24 rears. I went with the max i can put in the tires since the little tractor is tippy and bouncy. Do you have a specific reason why you dont want to go with the normal max fill ? about 75 percent.

I don't find my bx23 tippy and bouncy.

 

[Conservation]

I have 44X18 20's on the rear of my jd 1050. I am considering filling them. That is a pretty wide tire, and it will hold a lot of fluid. Any idea how much fluid I would need and what it would weigh? I have heard that washer fluid is the way to go. What is the cheapest way to go without regreting it?

 

[wedge40]

I have 44X18 20's on the rear of my jd 1050. I am considering filling them. That is a pretty wide tire, and it will hold a lot of fluid. Any idea how much fluid I would need and what it would weigh? I have heard that washer fluid is the way to go. What is the cheapest way to go without regreting it?

This link will help.. I looks like your tire will hold 56 gallons. I'm guessing washer fluid is about 8lbs per gallon. That would be 448lbs. Rim Guard weighs about 11 lb/gal I think or 616lbs.

http://www.rimguard.biz/Documentation/HydroFlationTable_AGTires.pdf

Wedge

 

[thatguy]

IF you didnt fill the tire up to the normal acceptable level would you run the chance of the fluid sloshing back and forth which could cause you to be pushed forward??

Brian

 

[Reg]

IF you didnt fill the tire up to the normal acceptable level would you run the chance of the fluid sloshing back and forth which could cause you to be pushed forward??

Brian

I suspect that it would be slight; slight push forwards, slight(er) pull backwards, oscillations diminishing to negligible.
In theory you should be able to feel the 75% fill slopping around, all I feel is a more solid tractor.

 

[Reg]

I have 44X18 20's on the rear of my jd 1050. I am considering filling them. That is a pretty wide tire, and it will hold a lot of fluid. Any idea how much fluid I would need and what it would weigh? I have heard that washer fluid is the way to go. What is the cheapest way to go without regreting it?

I have a similar set, but have them empty and I filled a pair of 17.5Lx24 R4s with RimGuard, they only take about a gallon less than your turfs IIRC.
Hefty lugs under filled tires for field work, unloaded turf tires for summer mowing.

Yes, it makes a BIG difference having that much weight ON THE GROUND.

 

[Conservation]

I would certainly think that adding over 800 lbs to the rear of the tractor should make a noticable difference. If I can get to the tractor this next week, that may be my project. It is out at the land where I am working on building my workshop. Inside work of course.

 

[Mickey_Fx]

Our local chain tire shop can fill tires a lot quicker and cheaper than I can. They have a published chart that lists all the most common tire sizes and it tells you how much liquid should be placed in the tire. You might want to check with a local tire shop to see if they have something like this. Chart showed different values depending upon what kind of liquid ballast being used.

 

[radioman]

I don't find my bx23 tippy and bouncy.

Its probably since you have 3 tractors and you spend 16 hrs a day smoothing everything you own and then some. no offense !

 

[neucam]

Everyone is right, fill up so the rim is submerged with liquid, it does not hurt the ride much, but it gives a lot of stability on slopes. With the way the valve stem is located, it would be hard to overfill from a gravity fed device. Anything less would be slopping around and not accomplish much as far as traction/stability.