Food Plots Business, Equipment & Crops To Plant

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ksmmoto

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Well I'm finally getting my business using my Kubota and equipment off the ground. Should be doing customer work by June.

Seems to be a lot of interest in wildlife (DEER) food plots around here. My brother who farms part time and my local small engine/small tractor repair man both said that people keep asking who can do this kind of work.

I can disk and till, but I don't have a planter. What is usually planted and what kind of equipment do I need? I won't try to rush in this spring, but want to see about next year, if I don't have too much work already by then!

I have seen some of Indydirtfarmer's post on this, maybe Indy could reply? Also interested in what rates to charge and seed and fertilizer needed.

Thanks in advance.

ksmmoto
 
   / Food Plots Business, Equipment & Crops To Plant #2  
This is one of the reasons I am looking for a new tractor now except I only plan on planting for myself. Doing it for a business you are going to run across allot of varied soil conditions. For instance some of my land, fields, have not been cultivated in over 50 years but they are always mowed down each year. With that being said I am not sure a set of discs will brake the soil enough, but in a field that has been cultivated it would work. Anyway here is the list I am considering.

Sprayer (may be a good idea to round-up the field before tilling, then herbicide for grasses after it is growing)
Plow (to many stones here for a tiller)
Disc
Harrow
Rock Picker
Cultipacker
Spreader (for on 3pt hitch for fertilizer, lime could take a ton to two per acre, at least here in PA, so have it done commercially. You will probably want to get in touch with your local college co-op and take soil samples for analysis before planting and this will tell you how much lime and what fertilizer is needed for you specific crop)
Bush hog (for best results some crops will need to be mowed couple times per year)

For spreading seed I am just going to use a hand broadcast spreader, but I am will be doing less than 5 acres. If you are seeding clover the seed is so fine and all you need is about 5-8 lb per acre or sometimes even down to 2. Alfalfa will be about 10-15 lbs per acre then soybean mix would be about 22-25 lbs per acre or less.

Hopefully you get some good replys on this post because I will be watching to see what is said also.
 
   / Food Plots Business, Equipment & Crops To Plant #3  
Check the Quality Deer Management forums at www.QDMA.org. There is a forum specifically for food plots. Lots of advice. Good luck.
 
   / Food Plots Business, Equipment & Crops To Plant #4  
I'll try to answer as many questions as possible...

First off, I get about 25 "request's" per year for just what youare talking about. I ACTUALLY DO about 5 or 6. Most people have no clue what it would cost. When they find out.....all bets are off.

OK, next... What are you going to plant? Row crop? Solid stand? Small seed? Large?

On the sugestion of spraying Round-Up (glyphosate) or any other pesticides, as well as fertilizer applications... YOU MUST BE CERTIFIED/LICENSED TO APPLY PESTICIDES AND/OR FERTILIZERS ON SOMEONE ELSES PROPERTY. Be it commercially or NON-commercially. Some pesticide products will require that same certification to even purchase them. Fines are stiff. The likelyhood of being caught is increasing daily. Licensed applicators will turn you in, should they find out a non-licensed applicator is illegally doing what they spent time and money to do legally. The licensing is done on a state level, but federal guidelines (EPA) mandate these requirements.

Providing seed (re-selling) opens up a can of worms..... You will be expected to warrenty the performance of seed you plant. If it doesn't grow according to the expectations of your customers, DEPEND on the phone ringing.... I let my customers buy their own seed.

I try to deal with people that will have reasonable expectations. My biggest "client" is a local "hunt club". They are 40 seasoned hunters that have been around the block a few times. They know that everything isn't always perfect. They don't go nuts when a field comes up "spotty" because of rough spring weather, or any other valid reason.

EQUIPMENT;

You either have to "limit" your options, or have a LOT of equipment on hand. People will ask for something different at every phone call. Some want corn planted.... Some will ask for clover.... Others will want milo....

Then you'll get request's for plowing, discing, tilling, lime and fertilizer spreading, mid-season cultivating. No-till planting, ect.....

I happen to have several ways to plant many different "crops". That is because we farm, and have all the needed equipment on the farm. I doubt anyone could afford all the choices, just doing custom food plot planting.

If you're REALLY SERIOUS about this, here's what I'd recommend;

Get PROPER certification for pesticide application. THEN buy a 3-point sprayer set-up. Not a BIG one, but something in the 50 to 150 gallon/ 10' to 20' boom size. Deal ONLY with round-Up and/or 2,4-D products. (safe, predictable, less likely to get you sued)

Get a 2-row planter, capable of some no-tilling. (I have Deere #71 unit planters somewhat modified to do LIMITED no-tilling. Bigger jobs, I use my 8-row Deere 7200 planter)

A no-till drill is next on the list. I recommend. something like the KASCO ECO-DRILL. It is capable of planting just about everything, in a no-till or conventional tillage situation. (Plan on spending $5000 on this item) I use a Deere 750 no-till drill. (15')

Then, you'll need the usual assortment of plow, disc, tiller, fertilizer/lime spreader, and a good cultipacker.

When doing a foodplot for yourself, you can "make due" with any assortment of equipment. When doing for someone else, they're going to (in most cases) tell you what they want, and expect it done that way. Paying customers don't like to hear the word NO.

I'm not trying to discourage you, but merely prepare you for what to expect. It requires quite an expensive list of equipment to do all the different types of food plot seeding that'll be asked of you, should you go on the "open market".

I see it as a way to make a little extra income with equipment I need to have on my farm, as opposed to a lucrative business that'll pay off in spades, as a "stand alone operation".

Bill
 
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A further note.... With the certification for pesticide application, comes the requirement for liability insurance. (Proof of insurance is one of the requirements to get state license in ALL 50 states) That will require you to be a legitimate business, operating with-in ALL legal framework. (Taxs, business license, ect....) It will take you out of the part-time, "just for a few extra bucks" catagory, and put you in the position of "real business". Point being?????? There's yet ANOTHER big chunk of overhead.
 
   / Food Plots Business, Equipment & Crops To Plant #6  
That ECO-Drill may be the ticket for what I am looking to do which is planting in old farm land. Since the top layer of the fields are so compacted and thick I could prepare the soil with an old set of discs I have then go over it with the drill and be done. Although this wouldn't work for corn and such row crops. Whitetail Institute has an annual product out called Power Plant (I think) that you could seed this way although they are expensive.

Very good point on the pesticide license. Also the expense of moving your equipment would be tough on a start-up stand alone food plot business.
 
   / Food Plots Business, Equipment & Crops To Plant #7  
I demo-ed one of those ECO-DRILLS a few years back. It is a nice little outfit. It is capable of no-tilling just about any crop you can imagine (even corn) Kasco makes a variety of no-till/minimum tillage seed drills.

Also, Yetter Manufacturing has recently announced their "food plot planter hitch" for THEIR #71 planter units. It is basically what farmers refer to as a "coulter cart" made to pull with an ATV, or small tractor. It would give you some of the benifits of a no-till 2-row planter.

As far as transporting equipment, I TRY to operate with equipment that will, along with the tractor, fit on my 20+5' gooseneck trailer. I can haul to a job with everything in one load in MOST cases.

The "start-up cost" of being able to spray pesticides on someone elses property, on a "for hire" basis would be a minimum of $1000 with new equipment. (Less chemical) Add that to a $3000 to $5000 planter, and you have to plant a BUNCH of small food plots to break even.
 
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Thanks for all the great information, Indy. I knew about the pesticide license already, the insurance policy I am getting doesn't allow it. Adding it would raise the premium.

I wasn't planning on food plots as a main business item. As you mentioned, many people want it done cheap and that isn't possible when you figure in the true costs.

I am not depending on this business as sole income source as I have other sources. My wife says that I am retired! I do a lot of things, just don't get paid!

All the equipment I have I bought for myself anyway, so I thought that I would try to find jobs. Not planning to be a low ball bidder on anything as I can afford to pass up.

Maybe for food plots I will just work up ground and let the owner plant if that is what they want. I will post about any jobs I get.

ksmmoto
 

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