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HR_Mutt

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Out getting an early start on next years firewood. Noticed this piece of hickory is very straight and no branches coming out the sides. It's 19' long and 20" down to 15" dia.
Questions
1. Is hickory worthwhile to get sawed into boards? I don't really have a use for it other than it would be a board from out back.
2. Would someone (locally if I can find one) consider doing the cutting in exchange for a % of the wood?
3. There's a lot of similar cherry out there, worthwhile or just hack it into firewood?
Thanks in advance
Mutt
 

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If you live close enough, I would be interested in cutting the hickory on shares. I live in the southern part of mich. The cherry is something I already have but would still cut for you, It's a shame to burn nice lumber.


Kevin
 
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If you are talking about more than one log, good hickory can be a very great wood to build furniture, make paneling, or for structural uses and you should go forward with a plan.
However, if it is only one log, it is hardly worth the bother - sawing, stacking to air dry, getting a pile with enough weight to hold it flat while drying, and then drying it down to a moisture content fit for use indoors. The decisions you have to make when sawing are what thickness (about 1 1/8 green for a dry finished board of 3/4 inches), width of boards you might use (the narrower the better for better flatness), and lengths of boards you might use. Then the log is not large at 15" diameter (draw a 15" diam. circle, and see how many 1 3/8 inch boards you can fit into that circle -remembering that the sawcut will be about 1/4"), so there will not be many boards at the surface that are of the high quality (no branches), as further into the log the original branches will show up as knots. This is not a problem if panelling is the product as the knots will give it character. But not much panelling will come from one small log.
If there is already a mill sawing hickory, they may take your log and include it with theirs (and give you some lumber back). Usually mills don't like individual logs, as they don't know if it is a yard log or a fence row log. They have lots of steel in them which can wipe out a saw.
Sorry if this sounds depressing. For your experience, take it to a sawmill, have it sawn into boards (live sawn will be best), and then stack them for drying (the European way is to live saw and stack back ino the shape of a log). Don't share the lumber as you will have very little to stack.
You will know a lot more about getting boards from logs with your new-found experience. (the next one you find may just end up in your firewood stack quickly or you will take another log to the sawmill to add to your collection of boards)
Beenthere (and enjoyed the experience, but didn't get much wood!)
 
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Thanks for the quick and interesting replies.
I rested it on some locust so it is up off the ground.
Should it be cut within a certain length of time? Not sure what you mean by "live sawn".
Agree w/ the comment about burning the nice stuff, just never thought much about making boards until reading about it on TBN.
What sizes(dia. & length) should I keep an eye out for?
I don't have a logging winch (yet/w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif) so a little restricted on what can come out in one piece.
Will check it w/ metal detector before risking someones saw.
Thanks again
Mutt
 
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Live sawn is sawing through the log with all parallel saw cuts. There is less waste than trying to square the log and sawing around the square. That is a short explanation, but hope it helps.
Logs eight feet in length are easiest to handle, and will provide you with good lumber that will be easier to handle for drying. This lumber length works well for furniture and panelling uses. The longer lengths only if you want some structural material in two-inch dimension. Diameter is less critical for shorter length logs as well. As you pointed out, the 19 ft log had a lot of taper. Making a stack of lumber for air drying is easier if the longest length is around 8 ft, rather than 19 ft.
 
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Aaah yes 8' - What a magic number. We just got done re-stacking 1900 board feet of red oak this weekend that was on top of 800 board foot of cherry. Damn 12 and 14' boards. Oooh god what a nightmare and backache. At least it will be a long time before I need more lumber. I have a 25' X 50' concrete block storage building where I have my wood bank. Being a woodworker - security is a couple thousand board feet of lumber drying under cover.

I have a friend who planed and tongue and grooved hickory and used it for flooring. Oooh my god it is beautiful! I like hickory - need to locate a bundle of it.

Dr Dan
 

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