Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end

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Quinn270270

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Ford 1700
I have a ford 1700 with 1300 hours on it. I changed the oil the other day and started the engine to fill the filter then shut it off to check level and when I pulled the dip stick I heard a rush of air(pressure being released). I've never heard that before so I'm wondering what could be causing it? I've run it a few times since and it is still build pressure. Is there a crankcase vent on these that could be blocked/plugged? It doesn't smoke at idle. I do get a little black smoke under load but not excessive.
 
   / Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end #2  
A word of caution that may not apply to your tractor.
There have been problems with some kubotas with turbos.
The crankcase vent system freezes and the pressure build up in the crankcase starts forcing engine oil up the turbo drain line and suddenly the engine is running away running on engine oil.
You cannot stop it by turning off the key because it is running on engine oil not diesel.

Either you choke off the air intake, and never with your hand, or it revs to destruction.

Go on youtune and search for diesel run-a-way. Old VW's with worn rings, all sorts of engines.

My only point being this pressure you are observing can, in some cases, have very serious consequences.
Dave M7040
 
   / Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end
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#3  
Thanks for the suggestion but my tractor doesn't have a turbo.
 
   / Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end #4  
Sounds like a clogged crankcase vent.
 
   / Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end #5  
I'll go with the blocked CC vent too. Pressure comes from compression pressure leaked by the piston rings. It has to get out somewhere. Unless you abused/neglected it, 1300 hrs. doesn't require an overhaul, but if you haven't been using a chemical to remove carbon from the combustion chamber and are sloppy with your oil change timing, then you have your smoking gun.

Black smoke under load is unburned fuel if the above isn't the problem. You either have clogged injectors, not misting...making blobs of diesel that don't ignite in time and get blown out the exhaust valve after the combustion process has completed for that stroke usually, or you may have a bad injector. Have them tested if you have a facility handy. Cheapest, easiest is to try chemicals first.

1. Go get yourself a diesel injector cleaner chemical and follow the directions. Power Services products are readily available, priced right and work. There are others. Give it time to work.

2. If your load drops your rpms more than 5% at PTO rpms, look at dropping a gear or lightening the load. So for you, assume your PTO rpms are 2400. 5% of 2400 is 120 rpms. If you are running along ready to drop the implement at PTO rpm and your rpms drop from 2400 down to say 2250 or less when you drop the implement, start the PTO, whatever the load, you are overloading your engine in my book. I never read a set number in any manual so I'm posting my gut feel number. 5% tain's gonna wear any main/rod bearings out prematurely!
 
   / Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end
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#6  
Was finally able to go do some more investigating and the crank case vent was kinked between engine and fuel tank. Thanks for everyone's input/help.
 
   / Ford 1700 building pressure in bottom end #7  
Good thing you caught it before you blew the seals.
 

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