Ford 1710 hydraulic problem.

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iamwallybee

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ford 1310
Hello all. My name is Paul and I have just acquired a 1986 ford 1710. I bought this as a project knowing the tractor had been sitting for awhile (I was told 1 year, but anybody's guess how long) and that it had a cracked head. I have found a head, and have gotten it running. I have changed all filters and oil Cleaned the intake screen on hydraulics. Tractor would not lift the 3pt at all. The seal on the piston was all but gone, changed seal. Now 3 pt will lift but very slowly at a higher rpm but stops when any pressure is put on 3 pt linkage. I have taken apart, cleaned and reassembled relief valve in the line about half way back to 3pt, also the one under the seat. Actually any hydro valve I could see was pulled apart and cleaned. I must note that all of these looked clean no dirt or debris that was visible. I also have a 1310 and swapped the relief valves just to be sure. I unhooked the hydro line, started tractor and it took about 15 seconds to pump one gallon of fluid. I don't have a pressure gauge yet so just doing what I can. I'm not sure what Ford ( actually Shibaura) calls this tranny but it is not a hydrostatic. It is set up with 2 gear shifters one on the floor has 1-4, the column shifter has reverse and 1-3. i would call it a 12 speed, not sure what anyone else would call it. The 1310 1510 and 1710 are all set up with this tranny not sure about the others in the 10 series. No draft control on the 3pt. There is a side plate under the seat on the right hand side where the control runs in could the problem be in there? I'm not real sharp on hydraulics, but this has my father stumped also. He has farmed and worked on his own equipment for the last 50 years. As I said before I do not know much about hydros and might be calling things by improper names. Thanks in advance for any help on this..
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem. #2  
It sounds like the pump is bad, low on hud fluid, or there is a restriction between the sump and pump. You checked the screen/filter yet?
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem. #3  
About the only thing left to check is the suction line for pin holes and a pressure test.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem. #4  
not personally familiar with the 1710 but a 1720 has a diverter valve block under the floorboard where you connect a loader, if that was turned it would display these symptoms.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem.
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#5  
I have cleaned the screen. It is full of fluid. If there was a pinhole in the system wouldn't the fluid get frothy? The set up on the 1720 is a lot different.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem. #6  
fluid would usually display signs of air yes, tractor data says 7.8 gpm you said you were getting roughly 4 gpm with no load, i would start with pump and or suction system first.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem. #7  
This may sound a little weird but I had the shaft going into the pump wear such that it would not seal. I had to pull it and have it built up. My 3 pt would go up but I would have to wait for literally 5-10 seconds and then it would lift.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem.
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#8  
OK Thanks guys. Gives me something to do next rainy day. I am still hoping its not the pump.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem.
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#9  
Just updating. Took side panel off under seat and found a check valve stuck open. 3pt picked my 270 pond butt up. but will test it out later this week. Thanks for all of your response.
 
   / Ford 1710 hydraulic problem. #10  
Hello! Is there a hydro filter screen on the 1710? I know of only one filter on the left foot pad.
 

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