Ford 1910 / Woods 1009 Loader hydrulic issues

   / Ford 1910 / Woods 1009 Loader hydrulic issues #1  

airrj

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I have been working on an '84 Ford 1910 for a friend, and one of the big projects has been to mount and plumb a Woods 1009 loader on the machine. I got all of that done, and thanks to chander for a bunch of help, I was able to get the loader working and sent the tractor back home. I thought all was well. Then the owner bought a scraper blade for the 3 point, and he called me and said that the 3 point wasn't working correctly with the loader hooked up. Boy was that an understatement.

Here is what I have:
1910 Ford
1009 Woods loader

The Woods loader has 1 pressure hose and 2 return hoses. I plumbed the pressure line to the junction block on the right side of the tractor (see photo) and I have the return plumbing going back to the sump via the power steering return line.

When the loader is disconnected from the hydraulic system, the 3 point system works correctly. 3 point controls work as they should, and plenty of power to lift a 6' box scraper.

When I connect the loader to Port 1 and turn the valve to Position B, (see photo) the loader works as expected. Good power, can lift a full bucket of gravel with no problems.

Things get funky when you try to use the 3 point controls when the loader is connected to the hydraulic system. The 3 point controls will never lift the 3 point. And based upon where the 3 point control lever is located the 3 point will go up with the loader control stick.

I mapped out the combination of things that are happening based on the hydraulic port that I am connected to, and the position of the valve on the control block. See the attached photo for the chart of what is happening. The black represents my actions moving the 3 point control and the loader control. The red represents the actions of the 3 point and the loader.

I know this is an odd problem, but I was hoping someone might have some ideas.

IMG_6740 - Copy.JPG
Loader Actions.JPG
 
   / Ford 1910 / Woods 1009 Loader hydrulic issues #2  
So, the loader valve has 3 lines. 1 Pressure 1 Tank and 1 Power Beyond. This power beyond line is what is messing you up.

You need to connect the Power Beyond line to the Port 2 (pic) on the block.

This makes the flow going from the pump, through the loader valve (when all levers in Neutral), then back to the block and will then feed the 3 point.
 
   / Ford 1910 / Woods 1009 Loader hydrulic issues
  • Thread Starter
#3  
Genius. That makes perfect sense when someone points it out. The response got delayed because of the inch of ice and several inches of snow that built up on the Ford over the last few days.

Thank you ptsg.:thumbsup:
 
   / Ford 1910 / Woods 1009 Loader hydrulic issues #4  
No problem. :thumbsup:

Just make sure you don't accidentally swap the tank and power beyond lines as it can damage the valve block.
 
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