Ford 3000-engine missing out

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dave76574

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My Ford 3000 gasoline model has been well-cared for and is a good little tractor. It has been sitting up for a couple of years but we got it running by replacing the carburetor, cleaning the fuel line, checking the coil, changing spark plugs and adjusting here and there.

It runs with lots of power but the engine misses out way too much. Especially in cold weather it is really hard to get it going and it dies frequently and requires a lot of "nursing" of the throttle and choke.

Is carbon build up or something else fundamentally wrong?

Thanks for any help in diagnosing and fixing this problem.
Dave
 
   / Ford 3000-engine missing out #2  
Points? Put a dwell meter on it and see if the points are set right, and if the dwell is changing during operation.
David from jax
 
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Did you flush out the old gas (or has it been running for a while?).

It may also be bad wires, a short in the distributor, bad cap or rotor or even water under the cap. Lot's of little things that crop up when you bring one back from the dead. Do you have a filter on the fuel before the carb? Can be lots of "stuff" in there.

jb
 
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I had a 3000 Gas for more'n 30 years. It would for some odd reason, tend to collect a LOT condensation under the distributor cap. It also had an appetite for ignition coils. Bad gas will cause your symptoms. Also, as mine accumulated hours, it became very cold natured. The guy I sold it to did a valve job on it and made it start and run much better in cold weather.
 
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john_bud said:
Did you flush out the old gas (or has it been running for a while?).

It may also be bad wires, a short in the distributor, bad cap or rotor or even water under the cap. Lot's of little things that crop up when you bring one back from the dead. Do you have a filter on the fuel before the carb? Can be lots of "stuff" in there.

jb

Just to add to what jb said, moisture or bad wires are typical reasons for missing, especially under load. I'd use a hair dryer to dry out the inside of the distributor really well. I'd also look at the wires. I think most of these old tractors used stranded wire plug wire and it may deteriorating and the spark jumping from wire to wire or on dirt residue on the surface. Running the tractor in the dark and looking for sparks jumping is what I normally do.

Any residue that is on the wires or plugs can collect moisture and jump a spark. If you are sure that the plugs are not fouling out, then look for moisture or contamination. Also look for any loose ignition wires that could be making intermittent contact due to vibration. Pull each plug wire and coil wire out of the distributor cap and look for "issues."

If plugs are fouling out, you can sometimes jump the spark to the plug electrode and the plug will fire. You can build a jumping jig with a piece of cardboard, or if you are really brave, you can pull the plug wire and hold it in your hand. Be ready for a few surprises :eek: if you don't do this right.

Finally, if the points are bad, normally the tractor won't even try to fire off. If it fires off and misses randomly, it's probably not the points, but you can never go wrong by making sure the point gap is set properly and the contacts are clean. I used to rotate the engine until the points are closed, then turn on the ignition and open the points with a screwdriver to get a spark. This will tell you if the points will work under normal operation.

I'd say to check the condenser, but they don't go bad very often. They are always included in a tuneup set, but rarely are they the cause of ignition problems.
 
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thanks for the tips. I will try and implement. Can anybody advise whether the I&T service manual would help me trouble shoot and repair this problem?

Thanks.
Dave
 
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dave76574 said:
thanks for the tips. I will try and implement. Can anybody advise whether the I&T service manual would help me trouble shoot and repair this problem?

Thanks.
Dave

I&T manuals are better than a sharp stick in the eye, but not by a wide margin. Best to find an original Ford owners manual, as well as service and parts manuals. They should be available through New Holland, many aftermarket sources, and on EBAY.
 
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Farmwithjunk said:
I&T manuals are better than a sharp stick in the eye, but not by a wide margin.
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Ain't that the truth!

You can get the ford manual on CD for cheap. Check that bay place.

jb
 
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I'd also suggest checking out the advance mechanism, in addition to all the good things already said.

Soundguy
 
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How old is the battery, and is your charge circuit working? If your battery is low, it will cause those symptoms if alt. is not charging properly. Good luck.
 

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