Ford/New Holland 5030 Hydraulics

[tboh80]

I have a Ford/New Holland 5030 with fel and deluxe remotes. I know this is a dual pump load sense hydraulic system. Currently I have a diverter valve that has to be moved for the loader to work or the rear remotes to work. I want to remove the diverter valve. Can I add a Hydraulic Pressure tapping Manifold #9613790 to supply hydraulic pressure to the cross fel valve. The cross fel valve has the power port and return port (low pressure) currently. To make this work I would need to add a cross power beyond sleeve to supply fluid to the N port on the pressure tapping manifold.

If this want work I need to purchase a load sense fel valve. Will this 2 spool prince 20 series valve w/load sensehttps://www.surpluscenter.com/Hydraulics/Hydraulic-Valves/Sectional-Control-Valves/Prince-Series-20/Prince-Series-20-Complete-Valves/. It has options under (work section load sense), what options do I choose?

Pictures added of drawing of how the hydraulic lines run, fel valve, and diverter valve.

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[RickB]

The tapping manifold won't work with the two pump system. Your best option is to buy the CCLS joystick valve and tee into the pressure and return tubes connected to the deluxe remotes. Cut/braze, silver solder or weld. You will need a shuttle tee to connect the signal line. The pressure line feeding the existing remotes is the only source for combined flow from the two pumps.

 

[tboh80]

I don't understand why it want work. I saw a 5030 tractor with a manifold installed supplying hydraulic power to fel. If you look at image 3158 the loader doesn't have load sense right now because the load sense ties in only on the deluxe valve side. So as long as I turn my loader valve into power beyond returning to n port on hydraulic manifold what is difference?

 

[RickB]

The tapping manifold is not designed to accept the flow from the auxiliary pump. In 20+ years at New Holland dealerships I have never seen a tapping manifold successfully used on a two pump three cylinder Ford/New Holland tractor. They are exclusively for use on single pump tractors and any informed retailer of those manifolds will tell you that, usually in print.

My suggested layout requires a shuttle tee connection to the load sense line because that is the only way to properly control/direct pump flow when using a CCLS valve. This is the only commonly acceptable way to free up your deluxe remote valves and have an independent loader control valve utilizing the flow from both pumps.

 

[tboh80]

I appreciate your answer no new holland dealer in North Louisiana can tell me anything close to as much info you have given me. Thankyou
What work section do I need to choose on a prince series 20 load sense valve- single acting, double acting, motor spool, motor spool w detents, double acting w/float?

 

[RickB]

I would choose one double acting non-detented slice without float for the bucket circuit. I would choose a double acting non-detented slice with float for the lift circuit. Do not buy a motor control spool; the neutral position in that style will not hold the loader cylinders in position.

edited for spelling.

 

[3Lfarms]

Rick, I’m glad you know what you’re doing.

Me looking at his drawing:

 

[RickB]

A valve rated for something near 20 gpm would be best.