Found a good deutz source

[woodlandfarms]

So I am having an overtemp issue, and it has been a bit of a bugger.... Finally found out from Deutz itself that it could be a faulty Thermostat (OK, did not know my tractor had a thermostat). Deutz wants 180 for the part. Didn't bother calling PT. Called my regional deutz parts supplier and they do not have it in stock but want $85... OK, Thats a nice discount.... Get on the net as I want it sooner than they can deliver and I find two sources,

The first, and who I went with is Commercial Diesel Parts Service. $30 for the thermostat and they had 30 in stock. But they had a Deutz Tech who really knew the engine. Right of the bat he had torque specs and told me how to not screw up the job (the bolt holding the thermostat in can mushroom if overtorqued). And he concurred (mostly) with my Thermostat idea. He said it is rare that they only partially open but it does happen.

The other company that came recommended but I did not call was

Foley Engines | 100 Years of Expert Advice

Anyway, for those who need a bit of help the tech at cdp texas was really good and very patient with a moron like me

Oh, one big note for those Deutz owners, the Foley sight says you should change out timing belts every 1000 hours.

 

[PTWannaHave]

... Oh, one big note for those Deutz owners, the Foley sight says you should change out timing belts every 1000 hours.

Hmmm... Have to wonder what the Deutz Engine Owner's|Service Manual says...

 

[woodlandfarms]

Found this Says 3000 hours or 5 years (I thnk it said 5 years).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae13eR-I1rU

 

[MossRoad]

I'd be curious as to if it requires any special tools or jigs as some engines do. You surely don't want anything to move out of time while the belt it off. I personally have no experience with this, but several years ago I was researching VW diesels and came across the timing belt issue. Was just looking at a used Subaru that will require timing belt change soon, too. Dang interference engines.

 

[SSdoxie]

Change a timing belt on a Deutz takes 2 locator timing pins, 1 goes in to hold crank the other in cam to hold in place when take the belt off. Going back on requires a belt tension tool to set proper break-in tension. Convenient thing is Deutz uses same belt and locator pins for just about every engine they have. We have had customer's bring in 1 & 2 cylinder air cooled engines from generators and replace the belt with used in Bobcat 863 & 873 4 cylinder oil cooled.

 

[MossRoad]

That's good info. Thanks! :thumbsup:

 

[MossRoad]

Here's an article regarding timing belt tensioning, pehaps on the same engine as yours? 1011 and 2011??
Deutz 1011 and 2011 Timing Belt Tension | Foley Engines

Incidentally, its from that second link you posted to Deutz info.

Good luck. This stuff interests me.

 

[ponytug]

I have used Commercial Diesel Parts for filters and parts and like them. They have been great to work with and have good prices and great stocks. I've used the Texas number and group. They were one of the few suppliers that has the German air filters and the exact oil pan washer which seems to be unique to Deutz.

FWIW: My 2008 FL2011 service manual confirms timing belt replacement at 3000 hours or max 5 years for severe duty service (service defined as agricultural machinery, skid-steer loaders, wheel loaders, drilling equipment, trench cutting machines... Further refined as high speed engine, impact loads, extreme ambient temperatures, high dust exposure)

There is a bit of an ambiguity; the manual puts the timing belt replacement on the 3000 hours (E40) service. My manual lists three things to be done at the same time (E40 service):

• Timing belt replacement
• Injection valve adjustment**
• Crankcase pressure vent valve adjustment

**EPA engines require replacement of the injection valves
It is not clear to me whether the 5yr guideline for timing belts also applies to the PCPV and the injectors.
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All are supposed to be done by Deutz authorized service personnel.

For the curious, light duty is 1500/1800 rpm generators, pumps, platform lifts, refrigeration units.​

I guess I will be changing my timing belt soon! :cool2: Thanks Carl!

All the best,

Peter