Front dozer blade / 3pt hitch advice/ideas

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SirFallalot

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Hey all,

I built a small angle iron frame to put a toolbox/bag on top of the weights, but after I was done with it, I realized what I really wanted was a front dozer blade to push stuff or earth around after dump it or scarify. For this I'm not sure if it's best to build single purpose long chassis mounted arms to a blade, or if I might as well build a 3pt hitch, could be handy to put a dedicated weight bar, or pick up....stuff, we don't need to justify ourselves to build stuff right?!.

I've spent some time searching around and found a couple "templates" to follow, but I'm unsure about two things, design/position of the 3pt arms, and size of the metal to use. Here's some examples of the two "designs" I'm a bit torn between.

Style 1:
Advantages:These are the most simple I guess the whole thing is mounted to the bumper plate, the lower arms are parallel with the bumper/3pt. I think this probably gives more travel because the cylinder is closer to the pivot.
Drawbacks: is it too much for the front bumper? Is it too high for the blade?
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Style 2:
Advantages: The arms on these are mounter back in the frame, I figure this gives them more resistance to twist and allows the tractor to better apply forward force? Looks like it might distribute the load better. Although maybe the top one could also have a brace running back to the frame, it'd just no be the movable arm.
These are also closer to the ground, looks like it's more appropriate to mount the blade, also looks like adding tilt might be easier, it's halfway to a loader I guess
Drawbacks: I think this would probably be a dedicated mount, since it's so close to the floor, not sure if it'd work with other things. Construction might be more complicated? he frame is quite narrower so there's got to be some spacing. Also looks like it's got very limited vertical movement.
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This is the tractor in question, it's not my own as I'm not close to it right now.

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   / Front dozer blade / 3pt hitch advice/ideas
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Part II

I am also unsure about the size of the metal to use. I thought to use the same width and thickness as the rear 3pt arms, but now that I'm near the metal warehouse, I'm quite far away from the tractor (and vice versa), so I find it hard to visualize what to use.

From the Style 1 pics above, is that mostly 5cm 2" wide by 1cm 3/8-1/2" thick flat bar? Looking at it on my hand it looked overkill in width, might just be cause my tractor is small. I was wondering if I should use 3.5-4cm (1 ³/₈ - 1 ⁵/₈) instead
 
   / Front dozer blade / 3pt hitch advice/ideas #3  
On the larger tractors which I am familiar with and even going back to the Allis WD when you mounted a blade to the front of a tractor the mounting arms or a sub frame goes back to the rear axles or the lower drawbar mount so that the push is into the frame.
Mounting a blade to the front end or a 3 point hitch to the front without a sub frame is likely to result in a broken tractor someplace in the engine transmission area.
 
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I've always been told that 3pt components are meant for pulling, not pushing. I'd be concerned about bending things.
 
   / Front dozer blade / 3pt hitch advice/ideas
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Mounting a blade to the front end or a 3 point hitch to the front without a sub frame is likely to result in a broken tractor someplace in the engine transmission area.
I've always been told that 3pt components are meant for pulling, not pushing. I'd be concerned about bending things.
Right, this was what I was thinking might happen with the style 1. For style 2 I had been thinking about mounting directly to the frame a bit behind the front, but didn't think to go that far back, it does make sense. Looks like this needs more consideration...

Now that I'm thinking, it could probably be a mix of both things, for using the blade, the long arms could just be attached to the front hitch for lifting only.

If anyone's got some projects to suggest please do.
 
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Take a look at these just to get an idea of the frames required.


I see, thanks for the links it's helpful. This would also serve as well distributed ballast ahahah. I wonder if it'd drain too much power, considering the size of my tractor, it'd be what, 100kg all in? Not too much. This is definitely the way to go, it looks it can also serve as a 3pt if the blade is somehow removable.

By the way, other than rigidity, that's the advantage of the double cylinders? I don't really understand how the tilting blades work if the swing frame is solid.
 
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Also, looking at this. I figure people mounting blades strictly to the bumper are 100% asking for trouble?
 

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