Front-End Loader Front End Loader With Back Hoe

[R W]

Is it neccessary to have a FEL fitted to a tractor to be able to work a BH
properly. Is the loader needed to help stabilize the tractor.

 

[wedge40]

Depends on the BH, tractor size and many different things. The FEL will help stabilize the tractor while the BH is being used. Also there will be a lot of weight hanging off the back end, which in turn will make the front end very light, unless you load it up with weights.

Wedge

 

[hbaird]

With my Jinma 200LE the FEL is needed for balance and to move the dirt I dig up.
hbaird

 

[Gizmo2]

YES! Especially with these smaller tractors.

 

[IslandTractor]

YES! Especially with these smaller tractors.

I agree. It's needed mostly for ballast so in theory you could add other forms of counterweight but in practice it is hard to replace a 700-1000 lb hunk of ballast projected that far forward. Also, if needed, the bucket can be positioned to serve as an anchor to prevent the BH from dragging the tractor backwards as you dig. Finally, there are not too many BH operations that can be completed without using the bucket/FEL to either move whatever it is you are digging (stump, rock, dirt) or to clean up the mess you've created by filling, leveling etc.

 

[Gizmo2]

I have had may FEL off the ground more times than I can count when using the BH on my JD 650. Many times like to jar the teeth right out of your head.

 

[LBrown59]

Is it neccessary to have a FEL fitted to a tractor to be able to work a BH
properly. Is the loader needed to help stabilize the tractor.

Why would anybody want a BH w/0 a loader .?
There are many people with loaders and no Back Hoes but few folks with Back Hoes and no loaders ! ! !

 

[Gizmo2]

I don't think a dealer will or can sell a CUT with a BH and no FEL.

 

[Cyberroc]

I agree. It's needed mostly for ballast so in theory you could add other forms of counterweight but in practice it is hard to replace a 700-1000 lb hunk of ballast projected that far forward. Also, if needed, the bucket can be positioned to serve as an anchor to prevent the BH from dragging the tractor backwards as you dig. Finally, there are not too many BH operations that can be completed without using the bucket/FEL to either move whatever it is you are digging (stump, rock, dirt) or to clean up the mess you've created by filling, leveling etc.

I would agree 100%. Those would be my top 3 reasons, Ballast, Anchor, and back fill. Just dug a huge hole this weekend with my BH, was glad to have the FEL more than once.

 

[Opti-Mist]

There have been backhoe-only installations sanctioned by the manufacturer in the past for full sized utility and industrial tractors. It required a front mounted weight box to accomodate the required counterweight. That said, I agree with the others who recommend against it, for all their reasons and a couple of more.

 

[john_bud]

You can do it, but need a front counter weight equal to the weight of the back hoe (minimum). At the price of steel these days that limits you to a chunk of concrete that is large. And you best have some way of putting it on and taking it off, unlike steel it won't be modular.

 

[LBrown59]

You can do it, but need a front counter weight equal to the weight of the back hoe (minimum). At the price of steel these days that limits you to a chunk of concrete that is large. And you best have some way of putting it on and taking it off, unlike steel it won't be modular.

Just get some guy wire and a couple of anchors and tie the front end down that way.

 

[RayCo]

I could see myself using my backhoe with a dozer blade up front instead of a FEL and finding that useful in certain situations. But, this is only if it'd be safe to do so.

 

[LBrown59]

I don't think a dealer will or can sell a CUT with a BH and no FEL.

I think you could buy a b series kubota tractor and later buy a BH from the dealer.

 

[LBrown59]

chunk of concrete .

Me thinks me would just go for a F E L .

 

[john_bud]

Just get some guy wire and a couple of anchors and tie the front end down that way.

That would work, but might limit productivity when digging trenches .....

 

[Rara Avis]

Is it neccessary to have a FEL fitted to a tractor to be able to work a BH
properly. Is the loader needed to help stabilize the tractor.

How would you properly operate it in tripod mode without an FEL?