Fuel cost and your business

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NewToy

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Just curious how the cost of fuel has been affecting small business owners. I do a good bit of driving and hauling in my sales business and I have felt the difference in my pocket. (much lighter) My father in law has an excavating business and the fuel cost has had really hit him hard. Hauling fill,etc., costs him almost twice as much from last year. Was wondering how other members absorb or pass the increasing costs along as a surcharge, fuel adjustment, etc..

Thanks,

John
 
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I'm a one man band; home improvement stuff mostly and some tractor work thrown in for good measure. 'Taint fun right now. $95 to fill my 3/4 ton Dodge. Since I haul a trailer - whether it's a cargo deal for my tools or a dump trailer with tractor on board doesn't matter - there's almost no escaping the need for a pick-up - and the resulting fuel bills.

I forewarn all customers now that my pricing reflects the increased fuel costs (and 40% increase in insurance since Katrina).

The local heating & cooling guy just outfitted a Honda Element, says he can cover 90% of his service calls, all of his estimating work & around-town odd jobs with it. Looks like a slick alternative at 24mpg!

-Norm
 
   / Fuel cost and your business #3  
My FIL owns a lumberyard/construction supply/construction company. They add a fuel surcharge to houses they build. Construction supplies have gone through the roof. PVC, vinyl, anything plastic. Electric wire is unbelievable. Last summer I built a pole barn and bought some 12-2 to wire it. I paid about $40/250' roll. I'm still working on the wiring and needed some more wire. The wife emailed me from work (she works for her dad) and asked if I needed more wire because the price was going up from $65/roll to $103/roll.

More than doubled in less than a year.

I built my house 2 years ago. I don't remember what wire cost then, but I'd say $35/roll is a good guess. I used over 3000'. $103/roll would have killed me.

I think we're going to see a huge dropoff in new home construction in the very near future. Between increased fuel costs, outrageous increases in material cost, and rising interest rates, it just won't be possible for a person to build a home.
 
   / Fuel cost and your business #4  
New Toy,

Somewhat like you being in sales, I sell my service too. When a potential client calls, I'm no where near as quick to set up a personal meeting until I'm sure now that I've got a 90% chance or better of getting the work. I find myself worrying less about losing the work to a competitor than making sure the potential client is for real and serious about the deal. At these gas prices and with traveling, it doesn't take many "dead calls to hurt you!
 
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I moved my office from the city 30 miles away to my home more than a year ago. My clients didn't like it at first but now they couldn't care less. I still have to drive into town once or twice a week to service some client, but that sure beats driving in every day.
 
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I deal with and supply contractors who work with national home builders. You would be surprised how much residential new contruction hasn't slowed down in North and South Carolina, and most likely won't. Funny, because when there is a price increase in materials, usually North and South Carolina has their own "market" region where it is usually the last area affected by price increases (flex duct is a prime example, it's the cheapest in these two states cost wise than any where else in the nation).

Along with PVC and copper, zinc related products are going through the roof as well. Heck, beginning of last year, a 25 pack of 15% stay silv brazing rods went for $21 a pack to a contractor. You're now looking at least $50 for that same pack. 3/4", 2" and 3" PVC pipe went up almost 40% from last year. I've been getting phone calls alot lately from customers wondering what I'm doing to their pricing. I just tell them to call a competitor of mine to get a competitive price and then they realize that I'm not trying to "bend them over".

On the HVAC side, you would be surprised on the cost of Freon now. From last year, almost a 50% increase as well on R-22.

Something people may not realize now as well that 13SEER is the minimum rating that you can put into your house now(unless if you can still find any 10SEER equipment left over). Pricing on that equipment is compared to the old 10 SEER is usually at least a 30% increase in just the eqeuipment alone.

Heck, I just change out my old attic HVAC system, replaced it with a variable speed 80% gas furnace with a 13 SEER heat pump, and with materials and equipment, I almost fell over dead when I totaled everything up (and this was at MY cost).

We run two trucks out of our office to supply contractors. Probably put about 200-300 miles a day to run supplies. We do ALOT of business dollar wise and the fact is gas is killing any margin we're making money wise. A surcharge for gas is something we've decided would be a "kiss of death" to some extent. The question is if you do a surcharge, is it the same amount for any order? Seems unfair to charge $5 or $15 dollars (or any amount) on say a $500 order compared to 30k order. Also, it seems unfair to charge the same amount to a customer who may be only 2 miles away compared to a customer who is 100 miles away.

To answer your question, what we decided to do is add a 1/2% price increase in all materials/equipment sold. We're lucky that our IT department can do this cost wise in our system, so there is no "real" way to tell that there has been a price increase other than looking at the invoice. For the most part, this has been painless and unnoticeable (sp?) by any customers (figure if you bought $100 worth of materials, your
"new" cost on that invoice would be $100.50).

We figure that we're putting in at least an extra 50k to our bottom line for our office alone to help with gas.

I also get phone calls from some contractors who do get a "surcharge" on their invoice for delivery from my competitors, or I'll notice one on an invoice while at the business in question. Helps me gain some market share when I tell them that we don't, and never will charge for a delivery. I guess it's all in the "presentation" and wording. A fine line I know.
 
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It sounds like a challenge in store to recoup some of the monies evaporating with the increased energy costs. I find some people are understanding with the required price increases while others are assuming they are getting hosed. One thing for certain it impacts every consumable whether through increased transportation and/or manufacturing cost. The trucking companies along with the electric utilities are the only ones I know of that can get away with the "fuel surcharges". It isn't so bad when you can just pass the costs along, but in my particular business that isn't an option. Thanks for your input.

John
 
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When I sent contracts out to all my customers this past spring I told them my prices were based on fuel costing $2.50 per gal. If the price went above that I would have to add a fuel surcharge to each trip. I've done that and so far have had no complaints from anyone. I have a Tree and Lawn care business and I've added $1 to each call, and I'll add $.25 for each half dollar above $3 per gal.
 

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