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tmar04

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have yanmar ym2500 (3 cyl eng) 1100 hrs. starts, runs good. smokes upon acceleration.then clears out. smoke is dark grey. just replaced head gasket and valve stem seals. and had inj rebuilt. still smokes. uses no oil so far. possibly trash in inj pump??? what do you think? thx. also, just replaced fuel filter, drained tank and replaced all fuel lines.
 
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tmar04 said:
have yanmar ym2500 (3 cyl eng) 1100 hrs. starts, runs good. smokes upon acceleration.then clears out. smoke is dark grey. just replaced head gasket and valve stem seals. and had inj rebuilt. still smokes. uses no oil so far. possibly trash in inj pump??? what do you think? thx. also, just replaced fuel filter, drained tank and replaced all fuel lines.

Sounds normal to me.
 
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Sounds to me like it is doing EXACTLY like it is supposed to do. smoke under acceleration is absolutely normal. You have done enough work to her, now go do some work with her.:cool:

Mike
 
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thx to both you guys. i will do just that. cheers.
 
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Yep, sounds good.

No problems pulling the valve springs? There would be some good pics to post there!! :D
 
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Yeah, I thought about the pics, but it happened so fast, I didn't have time. simply put piston at top(easy to tell. valves won't depress, other two will) use stud for valve cover as anchor, slip piece of small flat iron down over, replace stud/valve cover nut and pry down. springs depress easily. really is easy with two sets of hands. bro in law pried down with bar, I removed keepers. very easy. only problem, old seals looked great, still got smoke problem, only upon acceleration. I am sure it is excess fuel, becasue it clears up instantly. but oily residue left in exhaust pipe. I mean, really oily!! is that normal?
 
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tmar04 said:
I am sure it is excess fuel, becasue it clears up instantly. but oily residue left in exhaust pipe. I mean, really oily!! is that normal?

Does it use any oil? Is it like an oily black soot, oily enough to stick but not liquid or dripping? Perhaps you could fill in your loaction. Sometimes on cold start I get moisture in the muffler and stack during warm up.
 
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It could be your injection timing is a bit retarded or late. That will cause more smoke under free-rev or loaded acceleration, than typical. did you check the timing when you went through the engine?
 
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uses minimal amount of oil. about what I would expect from 30 yr old machine. the oily residue is a mixture of oil, soot, and whatever. doesn't bead up like water, just typical diesel black oily mixture. Probably about normal for this age machine. after all, in 1977 tdhe environmental requirements were not so strict. I will just live with it. replacing valve seals did help some. thanks to all.
 
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Kevin, I am in central Georgia. Nice and warm! never have to even use thermo start. fires right up first try, everytime. I know some oily residue is normal, in exh pipe. I suspect most of it is a combination of normal oil usage, and excess fuel. something I can live with. My neighbor has a Kubota, altho it is new, so I will check his to compare. thanks to all.
 
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Older diesels will "slobber" when they are cold. Slobbering is passing unburnt fuel out the exhaust in a black slimy mess. Get out and really WORK that tractor for an hour then after an hour of hard work, idle down and throttle up. See if it is better or not.

You may also want to add some fuel additive with "cetane improver". Add enough for 6 points. Higher cetane fuel burns easier. That may help a bit too.

jb
 
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good tip. I will do just that and then report. thx
 
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john bud, your advice was right on. I worked it hard for an hour, breaking up garden. put cardboard in front of radiator, got temp up to 195 F, and 95% of smoke dissappeared! still get black, oily residue inside tip of exhaust. too thin to be all oil, too thick to be all fuel . probably mixture of fuel, oil and soot , or "slobber" , if you will. don't you agree? thanks again for advice. don't freeze up there in 'Wi. we are getting 70 degrees here in 'georgia. garden time.
 
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Even that last residue will probably disappear if you continue to work her. There likely is a build up of residue in the exhaust and it will take awhile to burn it out. The solution is to work it like it was intended to be worked. With garden time you should have all the opportunity. Good go.

Mike
 
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Thanks for the advice from Poland!!. I have good friend lives in Latvia. Keeps me updated on events there. again, thank you. will keep working little tractor. cheers.
 

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