Furnance Question

[GBeck]

I have an old oil fired furnace in the workshop that was there when I moved in. It has no oil storage tank, I was wondering if you can just get the 50 gallon drums of oil hooked up to this somehow rather then having to pay the delivery guy who fills up the house tank. The furnace would only be used maybe once or twice a week on the coldest days to basically just get the chill out of the air working out there. Not sure the make or model of the furnace but I could post a pic if needed.

 

[LBrown59]

I have an old oil fired furnace in the workshop that was there when I moved in. It has no oil storage tank, I was wondering if you can just get the 50 gallon drums of oil hooked up to this somehow rather then having to pay the delivery guy who fills up the house tank. The furnace would only be used maybe once or twice a week on the coldest days to basically just get the chill out of the air working out there. Not sure the make or model of the furnace but I could post a pic if needed.

Aren't you going have to pay him for the 50 gallons no matter where where he puts it, be it in the house tank or in the drum?
I'm begining to think I don't quite stand under what you mean here !

 

[GBeck]

I can just pick up one of the drums from the station in town and just keep swapping them out as I need it.
Currently for my house, I have a (I think) an 800 gallon tank, that just gets filled every month whether I need or not. So basically I pay 200 per month, and one of those months I pay them the difference, or get a credit (hasn't happened yet).
so this other furnace is just out in the workshop, and will just be used periodically, and around here for heating oil, the 50 gallon drum is the only thing I have been able to find that I can just pick up myself and not have to get delivery for.
bottom line is I don't know how it works, just on suction, or is there a pump, etc, etc to get the oil into the furnace

 

[GBeck]

and yes...I have been confused before

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I have an old oil fired furnace in the workshop that was there when I moved in. It has no oil storage tank, I was wondering if you can just get the 50 gallon drums of oil hooked up to this somehow rather then having to pay the delivery guy who fills up the house tank. The furnace would only be used maybe once or twice a week on the coldest days to basically just get the chill out of the air working out there. Not sure the make or model of the furnace but I could post a pic if needed.

Is there really a price difference between the delivered fuel and the 50 gallon drum?

I have an oil furnace, and I've never had to pay any kind of delivery charge.

 

[dqdave1]

I would guess there is a fuel pump of some sort on the furnace to get the fuel and an injector pump to spray fuel for flame.

 

[windy acers]

Sounds like you do not want to mix the billing with the house and shop.You will know how much you use for your play time.You probably just put the intake tube into the drum . (some also have a return line) The problem i see is bleeding the line every time you change the drum.You could siphen from a 2'nd drum. Number 2 Off road or on road (taxed) disel (about 2.60 gal) will will be the same as the house fuel. I heated a insulated 30x50 with a 80,000 oil furnace it was great because at the spure of a moment i could be at 70 degrees.I used a down flow furnace that was elivated 16 inches in a room next to the shop.Then I sold the farm.

 

[LBrown59]

Is there really a price difference between the delivered fuel and the 50 gallon drum?

*I have an oil furnace, and I've never had to pay any kind of delivery charge.

I have 55 gallon of fuel delivered at a time for my tractor.
It cost me the same if i go there and pick it up;
So why bother?
*Do u use the fuel in your tractor also ?
You can u know as most likely the fuel oil and the diesel are exactly the same thing.
1 fuel with 2 different names.

 

[LBrown59]

I can just pick up one of the drums from the station in town and just keep swapping them out as I need it.
Currently for my house, I have a (I think) an 800 gallon tank, that just gets filled every month whether I need or not. So basically I pay 200 per month, and one of those months I pay them the difference, or get a credit (hasn't happened yet).
so this other furnace is just out in the workshop, and will just be used periodically, and around here for heating oil, the 50 gallon drum is the only thing I have been able to find that I can just pick up myself and not have to get delivery for.
bottom line is I don't know how it works, just on suction, or is there a pump, etc, etc to get the oil into the furnace

I would just have it all delivered and use it in the house in the workshop and in the tractor.
It is all the same fuel and will work in all 3 applications.
There is no way I would be chasing after and manhandling a 50 gallon drum of fuel when the stuff was already being delivered to me.


L . B .

 

[JB4310]

bottom line is I don't know how it works, just on suction, or is there a pump, etc, etc to get the oil into the furnace

Not sure exactly, but most set ups have the line on the floor even under the floor so that tells me that most work by gravity, very rarely do I see one go overhead on the ceiling, and I do see alot of oil heating systems, being a contractor that's always in peoples basements.
Home depot has the legit 275 gal tanks pretty cheap I think, recently I've seen smaller tanks (look about half size) in a house, they were replacements and probably needed to be smaller due to clearance restraints getting them in the basement, the house was huge but had no hatchway.

You can see the small tanks in the corner of the picture they put three together so they had at least some capacity, they were probably replacing a 1,000 gal underground tank that would have been standard equipment when this house was built.
Look at the size of the house, must have to have them filled every couple of weeks in the middle of winter.
JB.

 

[GBeck]

and I I guess I should mention that where the shop is, I don't (and by that I mean the wife)driving over the yard to get to any tank I have out there, that's why I was thinking the 50 gallon drums

Is there really a price difference between the delivered fuel and the 50 gallon drum?

There is a delivery charge, not sure the exact amount

*Do u use the fuel in your tractor also ?

I am new to the rural living, and will admit that I never knew you could that, or that it is was the same thing

Home depot has the legit 275 gal tanks pretty cheap

I will check into that, thanks, seems the only I could find were the big 1000 gallon ones

 

[Iplayfarmer]

I guess I should mention that where the shop is, I don't (and by that I mean the wife)driving over the yard to get to any tank I have out there, that's why I was thinking the 50 gallon drums

All I've got to go by is the guy that delivers my oil to me, but he parks in my driveway and runs his hose around to the back of the house where the tank is. It always seems like he's still got half his hose on his reel. There's a good possibility that your guy is going to get the fuel to your tank without a lot of damage to your yard.

Even if you use 50 gallon drums, you're still going to have to get them to the shop somehow. I'm guessing it's going to involve driving accross the yard.

About the delivery charge... I'd ask. There may only be a delivery charge if you're taking under a certain minimum. Also, I'd ask around. The reason I like Oil heat is because if one supplier gets a little too big for his britches, I can just call one of the other 5 in the area and get better service at a better price. The suppliers know that, and they know they have to provide good service and be competetive.

 

[LBrown59]

1*I was wondering if you can just get the 50 gallon drums of oil hooked up to this somehow rather then having to pay the delivery guy who fills up the house tank.
2*I can just pick up one of the drums from the station in town and just keep swapping them out as I need it.
3*Currently for my house, I have a (I think) an 800 gallon tank, that just gets filled every month whether I need it or not.
4*There is a delivery charge, not sure the exact amount
5*I am new to the rural living, and will admit that I never knew you could that, or that it is was the same thing.
6*I will check into the 275 gal tanks thanks, seems the only ones I could find were the big 1000 gallon ones.
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1*Are you talking about getting the fuel from the same place or would the 800 gallon tank be getting filled by one place and the 50 gallon drum coming from a different place?
Pay the delivery guy What ?
2*If this is a different place why not just stick with the guy you're getting it from now?
Are you talking about drums of on road or off road stuff here?
3*All you need to do is continue doing this and simply draw out 55 gallon into a 55 gallon drum as need.
An 800 gallon tank being filled monthly should handle all your needs for the house the shop and the tractor.
Do what I'm saying and you can forget about delivery fees & chasing around after drums of fuel.
4*Who charges it The guy filling the 800 gallon tank or the place with the 50 gallon drums?
5*Sure Can.
No way in the world would I be trotting off to the gas station to pay 40 to sixty cents more a gallon for fuel for my tractor with 800 gallon of it setting at home in a tank.
6*You don't need/want a 275 gallon tank as it is to big for what you want to do and it could leave you with fuel going stale on you.
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[LBrown59]

I just went through all this kind of stuff last spring when I set up my Pump & Drum fuel storage out fit.
Been there done that larn't a little.

1*Even if you use 50 gallon drums, you're still going to have to get them to the shop somehow. I'm guessing it's going to involve driving across the yard.
3*There may only be a delivery charge if you're taking under a certain minimum.
4*Also, I'd ask around.

1*This is true but I see no point in having to fuss with getting the drums to and from his place on top of that especially when he already has home delivery .
The one 800 gallon tank will handle all the fuel he needs for the house workshop and his tractor.
3*The guy filling the 800 gallon tank shouldn't charge any delivery charge .
800 gallons is way way over the 100 to 300 minimums everybody else requires.
There should not be any delivery charge for the guy to fill a 55 gallon drum either.
Ya just bought 50 gallon extra so now he's gonna sock you with a delivery charge cause you made a bigger purchase.
NO WAY : That Don't Cut It!
4*That's ok . but don't get it from 2 different places as one or both may hook you with delivery charges.
L . B .