gc2300 power in reverse

massey driver · Sep 8, 2009

I'am kinda currious as to how much power does a massey gc2300 have in reverse compared to forward.I have a older massey 1655 with hydro and the power in reverse is the same as what its like in forward however I find that with the gc 2300 there seems to be a bit less power backing up.Eg: if I hook up with the back and pull it will spin the tires no problem in both 2 and 4 wheel drive.In reverse it has a harder time spinning the tires and in 4 wheel drive it doesn't seem to beable to.It's got lots of pulling power as I use it to move stuff out of the way to cut grass.I used it to pull my 54 chev 1 1/2 ton truck and it seemed to lack power while pulling back wards/ I know not supposed to pull with the front.But anyway is this normal for this tractor or is there a adjustment somewhere that needs to be tweeked?? I don't have anything to compare it too except my 1655 thats why I'am asking to see what others have found with there's.Not sure if there's a weak releaf valve for reverse or if this is how they work.Any in put will be welcomed.Larry

irvingj · Sep 9, 2009

I've found that to be the case, too... What I've discovered is that I really have to shift my foor around and mash the pedal on the rear with my heel --the one time I wish I had two pedals instead of the rocker--

It seems to take a lot of pressure to get it to "full reverse." Reverse gear IS slightly lower, however; perhaps that's why it's more difficult to spin the tires?

I also plan to check the reverse stop bolt position-- there's some adjustment there, and apparently things don't work quite to their proper specs if it's not set right. (Check "Massey hydraulic failure" thread)

massey driver · Sep 9, 2009

Good to hear that mine's working like that as well.Guess it must be the way it works.I had a Ford 125 LGT with a hydro just prior to buying the gc2300 and it acted like that as well so it they must set up the hydos like that.The massey 1655 has a sunstrand hydro where the old Ford had a eaton same as whats in the gc2300 so glad to hear thats how they work.I'll not have to be concerened about mina anu more.It works fine in all other aspects so guess I can stop thinking about it.Thanks for the input as always Larry.

jeepcj7 · Sep 9, 2009

Actual power between forward and reverse is the same, however the pedal travel in reverse is limited to 80% of the forward pedal travel (basically reverse will only go 80% as fast as forward)

massey driver · Sep 11, 2009

Ok guys used the tractor to do some loader work,digging into the dirt,gravel etc all sorts of power going forward.Now backing up its pretty sad.There's a hissing sound comming from underneath ?? and trying to back up with a bucket full it's pretty poor.When backing up a slight incline as well without a bucket full there's a hissing sound or oil by passing.Any ideas as to why its doing this.Like I say forward is fine backwards not so good.Is there a seperate relief valve for reverse or poppet valve.Need help in figuring this out.Thanks Larry

tx2310 · Sep 11, 2009

I have dug a basement with my 2310 most of the loads where done in reverse with full buckets and no problems. There is something wrong still. here are some pics showing the angle I has climbing. The bucket is not full in the one picture because the brakes would not hold with the bucket any fuller.

Doug

massey driver · Sep 11, 2009

wow if your able to backout of that hole with a full bucket full and with the backhoe on as well then there's still something wrong with mine.After posting this morning I called the hydro guy that did my hydro unit and explained to him what it was doing and he sugested that I swap the springs on the poppet valves to see if it makes any diff.I guess like he was saying if its weak in reverse then by swapping the springs it should be weak in forward.Anyway I didn't have a chance to do that today so hopefully I'll try that tommoro if I get some free time. Sure hope thats all it could be its easy to do that compared to pulling the hydro out again.Once I do that spring swap I'll post again letting everyone know how things went.As always Larry.

irvingj · Sep 11, 2009

Sorry, MassyDriver-- no other ideas (my experience with the 2310 is really limited) but it does sound as though something's not quite right! Although I have to really push on the pedal for max reverse, mine always does go. It also makes a hissing sound, perhaps moreso than when it's in forward, but it does still go-- at least it always has so far.... I suppose you've checked the fluid level? (sorry if you mentioned this already!)

massey driver · Sep 13, 2009

took a look to see if I could compare what the springs look like but not possible due to the front 4x4 shaft housing right where access is to take out one spring and valve.Any way I took the tractor into the ditch had to have it in 4x4 and in low range backed up the ditch but in high range had to full throttle and was barely able to back out,the motor was labouring like crazy and just about didn't make it.Yet doing the same thing forward its no problem in either high or low range and the motor didn't labour at all so just don't know what to think about that yet.It would be nice if I knew someone who has one so I could actually try there's to compare to mine.Guess I'll just live with it for now untill able to find more info on what could possibly be wrong.I don't want to pull it apart right now as have stuff to do and need to be able to have it doing stuff for me.So will just use it like this for the time being and maybe someone will beable to give me a bit more of a idea what to check out on it.Thanks for all the info so far,hopefully someone will beable to help me figure this one out.My old 1655 doesn't matter forward or backwards high or low range it's the same so thats why I figure this 2300 should work the same.As always Larry

Max2310 · Sep 15, 2009

Hi Massey Driver,

I understand your pain! I have a GC2310 and also wasn't impressed with the reverse. At some point, in very rare cases, I had to dump my load to be able to get out of the spot I was working in.

It definitivally doesn't have the same amount of strenght in forward than reverse. And you have to press hard on the pedal to get out.

Mine is a 2008 model.

That's my experience. But don't get me wrong, I love this little beast!
Max

edit: Having said that, sometimes I forget to release the stupid park brake and don't realise it untill I go in reverse