gear oil vs motor oil

   / gear oil vs motor oil #11  
So to confirm if it says GL-5, GL-4, GL-3 then is it yellow metal friendly.

Yellow metal safe IS the API GL-4 rated oil. Many gear oils that are available today will have multiple API ratings. GL-5 can be yellow metal safe but not alway's. The main difference is the additive chemistry. Many non GL-4 gear oils have a very robust sulfur or sulfated ash additive package which when exposed to water from moisture in the air turns into a mild solution of sulfuric acid. This mild sulfuric acid formation can cause damage to what is known as "yellow metals" which are normally brass, copper and compressed sintered bronze bushings. The majority of gear oil manufacturers have updated their additive packages over the years and discontinued the use of these additives but the only way to be completely safe is to either contact the lubricant manufacturer and ask them or just go with a gear oil that is GL-4 rated.

The performance requirements for automotive gear lubricants depend on their intended use. Here's a basic description of the most commonly referred to active and inactive spec's.

* API Category GL-1 (inactive*) designates the type of service characteristic of manual transmissions operating under such mild conditions of low unit pressures and minimum sliding velocities, that untreated oil may be used satisfactorily. Oxidation and rust inhibitors, defoamers and pour depressants may be used to improve the characteristics of lubricants intended for this service. Friction modifiers and extreme pressure additives shall not be used.

* API Category GL-2 (inactive*) designates the type of service characteristic of automotive type worm-gear axles operating under such conditions of load, temperature and sliding velocities, that lubricants satisfactory for API GL-1 service will not suffice.

* API Category GL-3 (inactive*) designates the type of service characteristic of manual transmissions and spiral-bevel axles operating under mild to moderate to severe conditions of speed and load. These service conditions require a lubricant having load-carrying capacities greater than those that will satisfy APL GL-1 service, but below the requirements of lubricants satisfying the API GL-4 service.

* API Category GL-4 designates the type of service characteristic of spiral-bevel and hypoid gears in automotive axles operated under moderate speeds and loads. These oils may be used in selected manual transmission and transaxle applications.

* API Category GL-5 designates the type of service characteristic of gears, particularly hypoids in automotive axles under high-speed and/or low-speed, high-torque conditions. Lubricants qualified under U.S. Military specification MIL-L-2105D (formerly MIL-L-2015C), MIL-PRF-2105E and SAE J2360 satisfy the requirements of the API GL-5 service designation.

* API Category GL-6 (inactive*) designates the type of service characteristic of gears designed with a very high pinion offset. Such designs typically require (gear) score protection in excess of that provided by API GL-5 gear oils. The original API GL-6 test equipment is obsolete.

* API Category MT-1 designates lubricants intended for non-synchronized manual transmissions used in buses and heavy-duty trucks. Lubricants meeting API MT-1 provide protection against the combination of thermal degradation, component wear, and oil seal deterioration which is not provided by lubricants meeting only the requirements of API GL-4 and API GL-5.

* MIL-PRF-2105E this specification released in 1995 combines the performance requirements of its predecessor (MIL-L-2105D) and API MT-1. MIL-PRF-2105E maintains all existing chemical/physical requirements, stationary axle test requirements, field test requirements and data review by the Lubricants Review Institute that were required under MIL-L-2105D. It also adds the stringent oil seal compatibility and thermal durability test requirements under API MT-1. MIL-PRF-2105E has been re-written as SAE Standard J2360.

* SAE J2360 standard is a new global quality standard that defines a level of performance equivalent to that defined by MIL-PRF-2105E, a U.S. military standard for approval that was not available to oil blenders in all parts of the world. It includes all of the most recent axle and transmission testing requirements identified in API GL-5, API MT-1, and MIL-PRF-2105E including the need to demonstrate proof-of-performance through rigorous field testing.

* API Categories GL-1, GL-2, GL-3 and GL-6 were declared inactive by SAE Technical Committee 3 in 1995, even though oils may be marketed with these designations. Similarly, ASTM does not plan to maintain the performance tests associated with these categories, as in a number of cases these tests can no longer be run because parts or test installations are not available.
 
   / gear oil vs motor oil #12  
The oil is needed for an all American snowblower gear box from the 70's. The guys on the Yahoo Gravely list said to use motor oil. I am looking for a second opinion.

My 50yr old ford steering gear box can use mild ep 90w gear oil, or 50w motor oil.. however for your appl;ication.. I'd just geat a real 80w90 yellow metal safe gear oil.. walmart even sells it now..

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