Golfgar Need Help Please

   / Golfgar Need Help Please #1  
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Hey,
I am 17 and just getting into golfing, infact I am going to a week long camp at the University of South Florida, I have an almost complete set of clubs I am just mising the 1 and 2 irons and a putter. My question is what type of putter is good for beginers (since there are many shapes and sizes). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Nathaniel
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #2  
Go to a store that sells golf equipment. Nearly all have a carpeted area that you can putt on. Try various putters until you find one that feels good. Don't worry about which one you choose -- you will change within a few months anyway! Most golfers end up with a closet full of putters that rotate into and out of favor with the seasons. A $20 putter will work just as well as a PING for a beginner (and for most experts). Also, forget the one and two irons for now. Work on the short game. That is where you carve strokes from your game. Good luck. You are embarking on a potential lifetime addiction.
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #3  
Nathaniel,

Welcome to TBN! I never thought I'd be giving golf advice on a tractor web site! /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif That just goes to show you just how "cosmopolitan" TBN'ers really are!/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Clemson gave you some good advice. I guess a little more information would be helpful. Are you taking up the game strictly for recreational purposes, or do you want to play competitive golf? Do you expect to play on a college golf team? Believe it or not, these kinds of decisions can affect what kinds of clubs you have.

Regarding the 1 and 2 irons, they can be difficult clubs to hit. Generally speaking, you can achieve similar yardages with a 5 wood or even 7 wood. Of course, if you plan on playing in tournaments, you're going to have to decide which clubs you want to carry, since you can only have 13. A lot of playing and practice will help you decide which clubs you want to carry.

Regarding putters, I agree with Clemson from the standpoint that because there are so many different styles out there, you just need to spend some time geting the feel for the one(s) you like. I, personally, have six putters of different weights and shaft lengths. That doesn't mean I'm telling you to go out and get six putters. If you're buying it yourself, you probably can't afford more than one right now. Do not buy one from your local K-Mart or Wal-Mart store. In my opinion, the ones they sell there are only good for mini-golf! Spend a little money on a better quality putter you can get at your local municipal course pro shop or reputable golf store, like Edwin Watts. Odyssey has a really good line of putters, and they're all well balanced clubs. Both Ping and Scotty Cameron (Titleist) are exceptional putters, but they're also more expensive. Personally, I prefer a putter that has an inset in the face of one of the new rubberized or soft plastic materials. The ball comes off the face very lightly, which helps you have more control. I generally like blade putters myself, but it seems that most guys prefer a mallet head putter. The mallet head will be a little heavier, and thus give a slightly more on line swing. The down side, though, is that you need a lighter touch because of the extra weight.

Spend some time during your camp trying the different putter styles. And don't forget to try different shaft lengths. And make sure you give each one a fair test. Don't just hit 5 or 6 balls and then go on to the next putter. Use each putter in a variety of locations on the practice green, and hit 20 - 30 balls, at a minimum, with each putter.

I hope this helps. Good luck at your camp. Remember to have FUN! That's what it's all about. Let me know how it all works out.
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #4  
Clemson is right, almost any putter will work just fine. I started off with a $20 one. But I recently bought an Odyssey White Hot and I really like the forgiving feel of the insert. It has shaved several strokes of my scores. So I would start off with a model like that if I knew then...

My real goal is to have a Scotty Cameron Newport 2, but I'll have to get better before I buy that. My goal is when I'm breaking 80 consistently I'll buy it.

As to styles, that's a personal preference thing only I think. Blades look cool, but mallets are probably a little easier to line up. I use a modified mallet style, kind of in between, but I really like having 3 lines to line the ball up with. Haven't heard anything good about the 2-ball putters that are supposed to make it easier to line the ball up.

I don't use a 1 or 2 iron either. I would say they are only for low handicappers, but I could be wrong.

/w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gifGolf talk on a tractor board. What will they think of next? /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif

--Brad
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #5  
Garry,

It looks like we're on the same wavelength. We're often replying at the same time (when we should be working) and now we're giving similar advice on golf clubs. /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

--Brad
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #6  
Brad,

Yup, Yup!! It doesn't get any better than that, does it? Except, of course, if we were out on the course or out on the tractor (at least yours, anyway)!!

Do we dare even consider asking Muhammad to add a new forum devoted to golf?/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif Hey, the PT guys got theirs, right? Stranger things have happened!! /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please
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Thanks all,
I really appreciate all the advice. I am going to take what you all said and hopefully apply it at the store today. If I do I will tell what I got.
Thanks again.
Nathaniel
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #8  
Ok, both Golfgar and Mike made similiar comments that intrigue/puzzle me. Quoting Golfgar: <font color=blue>Regarding the 1 and 2 irons, they can be difficult clubs to hit. Generally speaking, you can achieve similar yardages with a 5 wood or even 7 wood. </font color=blue>

Why is it that 1 and 2 irons are harder for most people to hit? The assumption is that the woods are easier?

Have not played golf in years, gave it up when I was first married, funds were a little tight back then and thought it cost too much. But did enjoy playing as a teenager and in my early twenties. Was frequently embarassed by my lack of skill with the woods as my control of the ball was pitiful /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif. On a par 3 or par 4 would frequently tee off with a 1 or 2 iron, distance was a little shorter then others were getting with the woods but could put the ball right down the middle of the fairway while others were battling the trees, bunkers, rough, water hazards, etc. Guess my question is this: without seeing my swing what would be your best guess as to why I can hit irons well but not woods? Is there a fundamental difference in the stance or swing between the two?

Just a recreational duffer who has been thinking about trying to find a used set of clubs and a reasonable course to play again.
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #9  
<font color=blue>"Guess my question is this: without seeing my swing what would be your best guess as to why I can hit irons well but not woods?"</font color=blue>

It almost sounds contrary to what I said earlier, but generally speaking, an average golfer has more confidence and success with hitting irons, rather than woods (metals these days!). The reason for this is because irons offer a smaller face that strikes the ball, which in turn minimizes the action (spin) that is put on the ball, thus providing a "straighter" shot. In addition, the shaft length of irons, even the 1's and 2's are a little bit shorter than the woods. As a result, the club has less of a chance (because it's not travelling as far) to get out of line, which would encourage either a slice or hook. All of this ends up giving the golfer the confidence that (s)he's hitting straighter shots. This is why you see a lot of recreational golfers hitting irons off the tees on par 4's and even par 5's.

In reality, the 1 and 2 irons are more difficult irons for the recreational golfer to hit because the face of the club is so much straighter (less loft) than the other irons. Usually, the golfer ends up hitting worm burners or hitting off the toe or heel of the club (shanking or chili dipping).

I'm guessing that in your case, when you had success hitting the 1 and 2 irons on the par 3 course, you weren't making your normal swing. You probably were taking a slightly easier swing than you normally would take with a wood. Also, you had had some success with using those clubs, so you were comfortable with them. That's half the battle with ANY club. For me, I hate my 3 wood, so I don't hit it often. I have more success with my 5 wood.

Regarding the stance, there are some slight differences between the woods and the 1 and 2 irons. Generally speaking, the driver is played off of the golfer's left heel or even the left toe. The 3 wood would be played just slightlyfurther back in the stance. The 1 and 2 irons would be played more toward the center of the stance, about halfway between the left and foot and the center of the stance.

Getting back to the statement that a person can have similar results by hitting 5 or 7 woods instead of 1 or 2 irons, the reason is because they have a greater loft than the 1 or 2 irons, and also the shafts are a little shorter. Anytime a person can hit a club that has greater loft, they will find it easier and have more success. Think about it. I bet you generally like the way you hit your 9, PW, or SW, don't you? It's because you're taking shorter, more controlled swings and hitting the ball a shorter distance.

I guess the real bottom line is that there are all kinds of techniques that can be taught and used, but what it finally gets down to is what works for the individual. There are some really starnge looking swings on the PGA tour, but if it works, so what? I had a friend that couldn't hit any iron to save his butt. So he had the 1 - 9 woods, a sand wedge and a putter. Heck, he could hit his 9 wood better than I was hitting a Sand Wedge! So do whatever works, and use whatever club you're comfortable with. If you want to get better, then go ahead and take some lessons. The Pro should teach you based on your basic techniques and adapt to those.

Hope this helped. let me know if confused you more than before you asked the question.
 
   / Golfgar Need Help Please #10  
Golfgar4,

Thanks for your feedback. The difference for me must be the length of the club shaft. Had a friend back in the late 80s who apparently made his money in golf (quiet guy, did not want to talk about himself or his golf career). He gave me some lessons after watching me "play" once and I had a terrible time trying to learn to swing a driver. Always wanted to shorten the driver's shaft cause I felt that I was going to fall over backwards when trying to swing the club with any force. Hit hundreds of balls on the driving range and finally decided that golf was supposed to be a fun relaxing sport not the stressful exercise it was turning into. Just went back to playing the way I did before (with my irons). Had a 2 driver and 5 driver in the bag and would occassionally mess around with them if the course was vacant and I could take extra time.

Maybe I'll take my Dad out for Father's day. Haven't played with him since the mid 80s. Of course I won't bother keeping score as he'll have at least 18 strokes less then me... /w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif
 

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