Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc?

   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #1  

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Picked up the necessary items for my 50HR service today (though I'm closer to the 100HR mark than 50 :( ). The prices seemed pretty competitive, considering they're factory parts from the dealer.

Fuel Filter - 5.00
Oil Filter - 10.00
Hydraulic Filter - 22.00
HST Filter - 16.00
1 gal 15w-40 - 13.75
6 gal Trans/Hydro fluid - 52.00
1 QT 80w-90 (front axle) - 5.00

Total was $123.75 before tax.

Seems like a pretty fair price to me... doesn't it?

Aftermarket can't be much cheaper, unless I'm just really bad at finding/searching for the parts.

So, good deal or not?

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   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #2  
I would say that is a very good deal!
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #3  
That's definately a good deal. I don't know how fast you put hours on the tractor but at that price, I would buy filters and oil for your next two service intervals and store them. Prices only seem to go up!
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #4  
Double the price for parts sup here...
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc?
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#5  
Sweet - yet another reason to be happy with my dealer. They even impressed me by recommending against spending money on a new air filter... I was planning on just blowing it out anyways, but it is always refreshing when a dealership is fair and honest, and doesn't just try to take your money.

Van Paemel's in Armada, Michigan... Btw

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   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #6  
Picked up the necessary items for my 50HR service today (though I'm closer to the 100HR mark than 50 :( ). The prices seemed pretty competitive, considering they're factory parts from the dealer.

Fuel Filter - 5.00
Oil Filter - 10.00
Hydraulic Filter - 22.00
HST Filter - 16.00
1 gal 15w-40 - 13.75
6 gal Trans/Hydro fluid - 52.00
1 QT 80w-90 (front axle) - 5.00

Total was $123.75 before tax.

Seems like a pretty fair price to me... doesn't it?

Aftermarket can't be much cheaper, unless I'm just really bad at finding/searching for the parts.

So, good deal or not?

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Send me some of those 16.00 hst filters. Mine was 95.00.
Murph
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #7  
what dealer do you use, I would be interested in seeing if they would ship me the parts.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #8  
I just picked up filters for my DK45SC.
Fuel 3.87
Oil 9.55
Hydraulic 24.31

Seems reasonable and supports your dealer.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #9  
Recently I bought a third-party air filter for my DK35. The original was Donaldson P822768, and I replaced with K&N E-4962. It is a perfect fit and it has the famous K&N life-time warranty. It can be cleaned and reused indefinitely. I think I only paid 35 or 40 dollars.
I use K&N air filters in all my vehicles, for 25 years - from my Corvette to my tractor. These are excellent products.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #10  
Thats good to know, thanks.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #11  
Recently I bought a third-party air filter for my DK35.

No comment on K&N, but Diesel air filters are critical. Without a restrictive throttle plate (like gas engines have) Diesels get a full cylinder of air at near-atmospheric pressure and density on every piston stroke. In short, a LOT of air goes into the engine. If that air is dirty (particularly with anything abrasive) serious engine damage will follow, and soon. The fact we use our tractors in a dusty environment (compared to a highway) makes the problem more severe. Bottom line is that good air filtration is critical in Diesels, much more so than in gasoline engines.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #12  
No comment on K&N, but Diesel air filters are critical. Without a restrictive throttle plate (like gas engines have) Diesels get a full cylinder of air at near atmospheric pressure and density on every piston stroke. In short, a LOT of air goes into the engine. If that air is dirty (particularly with anything abrasive) serious engine damage will follow, and soon. The fact we use our tractors in a dusty environment (compared to a highway) makes the problem more severe. Bottom line is that good air filtration is critical in Diesels, much more so than in gasoline engines.

Thats why Kioti tells us to clean our air filters.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #13  
Thats why Kioti tells us to clean our air filters.

Not quite. Cleaning the filter lets more air through so you get more engine power. The problem I tried to address was filters that allow small particles to get into the engine. I din't know how the K&N compares to the OEM filter but I am skeptical of any air filter that can be cleaned and reused indefinitely.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #14  
Not quite. Cleaning the filter lets more air through so you get more engine power. The problem I tried to address was filters that allow small particles to get into the engine. I din't know how the K&N compares to the OEM filter but I am skeptical of any air filter that can be cleaned and reused indefinitely.

Read your book.That is what Kioti recommends
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #15  
Read your book.That is what Kioti recommends
Sure. But a good filter will trap small particles that can't be blown or vacuumed out; so eventually the OEM filters need to be replaced or you'll lose engine power. Again, the concern I tried to address is danger from aftermarket filters that might not trap small particles.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #16  
Here are prices (Canadian $) for my DK35SE HST filters I bought in BC, Canada August 08:
fuel filter - $5.81
oil filter - $14.13
hydraulic filter - $36.47
HST filter - $131.
Then 12% HST (sales tax) is added to that.

Edited to add the following:

I checked the prices for the same filters I purchased May 4, 2012--they were identical to those on August 08, 2012. I also got an air filter in May priced at $69.12.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #17  
Sure. But a good filter will trap small particles that can't be blown or vacuumed out; so eventually the OEM filters need to be replaced or you'll lose engine power. Again, the concern I tried to address is danger from aftermarket filters that might not trap small particles.

Then buy OEM.
 
   / Good Price on Filters/Fluids from Kioti dealer. Is aftermarket better, cheaper, etc? #18  
I agree with ritchevs about the criticality of air filtration, particularly for diesel engines. That is one of the reasons why air filters are much bigger (surface area) then for gas engines. The filter surface for my 38 HP DK35 is probably one and one half times the size of the filter for my 400 HP Corvette. The much larger size decreases the pressure difference across the filter and makes the job of filtration much "easier".
 

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