Grapple Grapple for clean up OR hire it out???

   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #1  

BamaRob

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I'm having some timber cut on 4-5 acres adjacent to my lawn. Pine beetles have infested the pines and it was either cut them or watch them all slowly die. I'm having the area cleared of all trees (pine, sweetgum, maple, black cherry) except the few bigger oaks and dogwoods that are there. There's going to be lots of tops, brambles, muscadine vines, etc. to clean up after the loggers are finished. I'd like to get the area to where I can mow it with my 5' KK rotary kutter behind my Mahindra 2615 4WD. The bigger stumps are spaced widely enough that mowing around them won't be that big of an issue, and the smaller stumps are, for the most part, being cut low enough to the ground that I can mow over them.

I had made up my mind to purchase a 48" Millonzi grapple and a selector valve kit from WR Long to mount on my loader. Total cost would be around $1400.00. I could then use the grapple to pile the tops for burning. This would be accomplished in the afternoons after work and on the weekends. I'd then have to wait until the burn ban is lifted for my county and burn the pile(s) when conditions are right. I had it all planned out. My financial manager (read "wife" for those of you who aren't married :)) has reservations. She's afraid we won't have much use for the grapple once the clean up of this area is complete. I keep assuring her that there will be many, many uses for the grapple in the years to come.

Then, I came across a flier for a local guy advertising land clearing. He has a mulcher attachment on a tracked skid steer machine. I've checked out some of his work and was impressed. He'd turn all the tops, brambles, vines, etc. to mulch and pile the bigger stuff for burning. Plus, he'd grind the stumps down. Wow! This would save me lots of work/time and almost immediately get the area in a condition that can be mowed and ready for planting pines, sawtooth oaks, dogwoods, fruit trees, and whatever else we plan to do with it. So, I gave him a call this morning.

He gets $100/hr. running the mulcher. $75/hr. running a tractor/grapple to pile the bigger stuff. He said it averages between $800 and $1300 per acre depending on the topography, the size and make up of material to be mulched, how rocky the property is (which directly correlates to how many mulcher teeth he has to replace), etc. So, with the mulcher solution, I'm looking at a minimum of $3200 (4 acres X $800/ac.) to have the area cleared. That's more than we're going to make off selling the timber (and, there are some BIG, 24"+ DBH pine logs in there)! I can't fault him on his rates. He has to make a living and I know that type of equipment is expensive to maintain. I think he told me each tooth he has to replace in the mulcher costs about $50.

Of course, I could save my money and not go either of these routes. I've been piling brush by just chaining it to my loader bucket. This involves pushing an appropriate amount of brush together, getting off the tractor and chaining it to the bucket, lift/curl, transport to burn pile, get off tractor to unhitch chains, get back on tractor and dump load. I suspect I could pile 5-10 times as much brush in the same amount of time with the grapple attachment.

I guess I'm just thinking out loud. Any input from similar experiences will certainly be appreciated.

Thanks,

BamaRob
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #2  
I can see your point but I think a little different
When he clears your lot, you will have a receipt
and when you clear your lot you will have a grapple and lots of spare change
Thats just me
Jim:)
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #3  
I guess I'm just thinking out loud. Any input from similar experiences will certainly be appreciated.

I went through this decision tree a few months ago and elected to purchase the grapple. Your assumption that you can pile 5-10x the brush w/ the grapple is conservative. I had >100 trees blow down in a severe windstorm, and the previous owners of our property had it logged...note that logged isn't synonymous w/ piled. I had/have about 8 acres to clean up from logging, 120 trees to limb, buck, and pile, and the debris to pile and burn. In about the equivalent of 5 days of work, I've completed 6 acres, have 75 trees ready to be cut into firewood, and am looking forward to the rest.

I too consulted w/ the folks who own mulching businesses, and will hire one once I've completed the lion's share of the work. I don't want to mess w/ some of the brush-type growth. I think this will end up costing me around $1200-$1600 once I've completed what I decided to do myself. Original estimates were around $10,000 for the whole job.

I have $1800 into my grapple/3rd function setup, and will end up saving our family a ton of money.

We have more time than money, and as a result made this decision. If you need it done quickly, the mulchers are awesome.

Best of luck on your decision.
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #4  
Another option is to make/get a set of brush forks. I eliminated both your choices by doing so and accomplished the same thing, though on a smaller scale. I am able to scooch under brush, logs, etc, and move to piles without getting off tractor. On rare occasion, I have been in bad terrain and have thrown a chain over the pile to transport.
 

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   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #5  
I have been going through a similar thought process myself only in my case it is do it the hard way versus get a grapple, and I have 20 acres that need cleaned up. I have a hard time figuring out what I will use a grapple for once all the debris is cleared and would be interested in hearing the other uses members have found for their grapples. I know there might be the occasional large rock that could be moved, but again once that is done it's done.
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #6  
You can always sell the grapple if you dont use it afterwards. Chances are, youll use it a couple times and thank yourself for getting it and then keeping it. However, you can use a set of forks to do the same thing. Ive been doing some clearing as well and when I take a tree down and limb it, I just pile up the brush in fairly neat piles. When it comes time to burn, I can get the whole pile on the forks, transport it to the fire and drop it on. The nice thing about smaller piles is by the time i get back with another load, the previous one is burned pretty well, keeps the fire more managable.
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #7  
I use my grapple bucket so much that I hardly even have the standard bucket on my loader anymore. You will find all kinds of uses for it once you get it. I cannot even imagine going back to without a grapple bucket. To me the grapple turns the tractor into a MUCH more versatile and usable machine.
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #8  
I'm thinking do both ... buy the grapple & use it to pick up and pile the big stuff for burning, then hire him to mulch the little stuff and grind the stumps. The $1400 you spend on the grapple will pay for itself in just 2 hrs of his time. I'm betting it will save even more. Do you think he could do all that pickup in 2 hours? Then you just have the $100 phr for him to mulch and grind to a set amount that you want to spend. It may well take more seat time for you to do that ..... :eek: oh gee ...ain't that too bad?:D
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out??? #9  
Get the grapple. It's a no brainer. :D You will find other uses for it when you are done and if you don't you'll be able to sell it for 90% of what you paid. If you really think you won't need the grapple after finishing the clean up then consider investing in a rear remote rather than a 3rd function valve for your FEL. Without the grapple the 3rd function will be useless but you can always find other ways to use a rear remote.
 
   / Grapple for clean up OR hire it out???
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IslandTractor said:
Get the grapple. It's a no brainer. :D

I've been on the phone with Joe@Millonzi and Nelson@WRLong this morning. Hopefully, I can complete the order process this week and look forward to delivery in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks,

BR
 
 

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