gravel driveway alternative?

[SPIKER]

Hi Guys;

by the photo up above you see how the water pools up, that is all on their property. It then saturates the ground and runs twards the drive as it is down hill. the drive is probably less than 4' from edge to line, (was a guess) the pin at the road is only 1' off the edge of drive and the other pin is just beyond the maple at the top right side. the HEAVE is on their property which traps the water.

I know I need to FIX it somehow but if I do tile it I would have to run the tile UNDER the drive and out into my yard. there is not road ditch to run it into. attached here is a pitcher of MY yard looking back twards the road, it is about 150' wide at the road. also note that my septic is in the yard right to the down hill side of the drive and the leach field is running almost all the way down to where the large pool is. then there is a culvert that runs under the road that all that water has to go through (only about 16" dia maybe less as it is about 1/2 collapsed.) Ok now if I do run perf under the drive I have to cut it across the hole yard & septic field to that low drain & culvert, where I could get into some sticky troubles if they think I'm running septic into a road/ditch that has public runoff.....

anyhow here is view looking back tward road from about where the first pic is looking opposit way but about 50 ~100 feet missing between the views.

Mark M

 

[racechaser]

Hey Spiker
I may be misunderstanding this so if I am forgive me.It looks from the pic that the easiest solution would be to rent a trencher and trench a 6 inch pipe,sloping towards the ditch by the road. You could bury it and only have the little grates coming to the surface.Nobody wants water to stand on their place so they may see the value and split the expense with you. It looks like only 50 to 100 feet would be more than enough. Here in Louisiana that would be a half day weekend project with about $150 for the trencher and another $100.00 for the catch basins and pipe.I know you get north of me and you get rocks in your soil and stricter environmental laws but you're talking about building a tile bed so i can't see that being the problem.The pipe would divert the water straight to the ditch before the ground became saturated.

Every state has different laws, but here you are responsible for draining you're own property.You could put up a dam on you're property here if you're neighbors water drains across you're property and they have to figure out how to drain their own property not crossing yours.Now there are only a handful of people in the whole state that would pull a stunt like that.But, I happen to work with one of them and when he basically did that, the judge ruled in his favor and then the neighbors were much more cooperative in trying to keep their yard water from draining through the drain in the concrete on his back porch.
Now if the law is the same there, they may be more motivated to pitch in and find a solution to their drainage problem.

Just some thoughts
Scott

 

[rambler]

I guess I'm not getting it either. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif To me it seems easy to run a treancher along the side of your driveway,and it will drain out somewhere down towards the tarred road you show. If the ground is like a bigplate or catch basin & you can't tile that direction, then you need to tile across your driveway & drain the water perpendicular to your driveway. One or the other is going to work. It would appear you have plenty of fall to deal with this easily, but pictures can be misleading. A trencher only makes a 6" cut, so even if your 4' got down to 1' now, there is still room for a tile line. Might make a little mess on your driveway if the neighbors don't want the dirt piled on their lawn as you trench, but such is the price of a too-close-to-the-edge driveway.

The septic system would terribly complicate things 'here' tho, you can't get very close to a leach field with drainage tile any more. It sounds to me that staying in your 1-4' valley beside the driveway would keep you away from the leachfield, and I don't understand why you can't run a tile the length of your driveway on the hi (neighbors) side & get to that low spot you show in the second picture to let the tile drain. This would cut the water off and drain it towards the tarred road, so it wouldn't pool up & want to cross your driveway.

--->Paul