PaulChristenson said:
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That thing looks blemming complicated to me!
I think this is simpler (we have used one like this for the last 20 years I think!)
This one is made by Netherex. I think they are made in Canada.
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Simple
That thing looks blemming complicated to me!
I think this is simpler (we have used one like this for the last 20 years I think!)
This one is made by Netherex. I think they are made in Canada.
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You can see a long chute or sled on the pictures of that Kuhns bale accumulator:
That chute or sled, is standard when you hire a contractor in Holland, but without the accumulator:
The wagon is hooked behind the baler, and the chute brings up all bales at a height, that a person standing on the front of the hay wagon, can pick up the bale from the end of the chute without bending his knees or back.
And the best thing: if you are only a novice welder, you can still make one in a day, for 150 Euro !!
Dont forget to lighten the bale density setting, as the resistance of the chute will cause the baler to pound those bales a lot denser if you dont make up for it with the squeeze spindle settings.
It is a very simple, cheap way to lighten the manual workload a great deal. If the contractor can only come with his old spare baler without the chute, i'll call another 2 or 3 contractors to see if i can get one with the chute, before i decide to load all bales to the wagon with pitch forks.
That chute or sled, is standard when you hire a contractor in Holland, but without the accumulator:
The wagon is hooked behind the baler, and the chute brings up all bales at a height, that a person standing on the front of the hay wagon, can pick up the bale from the end of the chute without bending his knees or back.
And the best thing: if you are only a novice welder, you can still make one in a day, for 150 Euro !!
Dont forget to lighten the bale density setting, as the resistance of the chute will cause the baler to pound those bales a lot denser if you dont make up for it with the squeeze spindle settings.
It is a very simple, cheap way to lighten the manual workload a great deal. If the contractor can only come with his old spare baler without the chute, i'll call another 2 or 3 contractors to see if i can get one with the chute, before i decide to load all bales to the wagon with pitch forks.
mark.r
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Does anyone have any experience with or any opinions between the Haytech Accumulator/Grabber setup vs. the Kuhns Accumulator/Grabber setup.
Hay Tech vs. Kuhns Mfg. Accumulator Page
They looked to be effective and could be helpful in automating square baling for us. I'd simply like to hear additional opinions/information. I NH hay wagon is out since we use hay lofts currently.
Hay Tech vs. Kuhns Mfg. Accumulator Page
They looked to be effective and could be helpful in automating square baling for us. I'd simply like to hear additional opinions/information. I NH hay wagon is out since we use hay lofts currently.
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mark.r said:
If you use hay lofts how is an accumulator going to help you?
New Holland use to make bale wagons that would single unload directly onto an elevator. You just had to line it up right and hit a lever. Then have one guy in the loft stacking. When you get unloaded you go back and grab another load and if the guy stacking gets done before you are back he gets a short break.
I do not know why NH quit making the single unload units but I wish they still did as I would love the option as I want to get a self propelled unit that can unload a stack in a barn or a bale on an elevator for when I take loads to customers.
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Robert_in_NY said:
My thought is more so getting the bales out of the fields and onto the trailers which is where the accumulator/grabber would play a huge part. The other side of this is that although I still see myself purchasing an elevator of some sort, I currently have two storage facilities. One of our barns sits on a tiered slope where the loft doors are only about 7ft. high. It will be close but I may have to have that door widen by about a foot for the grabber to fit but I will be able to pull the bales right off the truck and set them right into the loft. Of course someone will have to stack them from there but I can live with that. I have a boarder that is willing to help with that for exchange for free hay for her horses. My other facility is not actually a loft but was originally designed as shelter for cattle with with the equivalent of about 5 12x12 horse stalls. I currently park my tractor in one of them and store round bales in the others for my boarder. That one I will be able to unload directly from the truck and drrive into and directly place the bales on pallets or a ground tarp. The ceiling in that structure is aprox. 14ft. high but the door over hang is only about 8ft. so with the rops down on my DK45 I can drive in. Finally we are building a new 6 stall barn with a full loft. I can't tell at this time how high the loft doors will be but higher than my current tractor can lift them and set them up there (just under 9ft.), an elevator will be in order. Eventually, as you and I have discussed a larger tractor is in works so loading directly off the truck and into the loft with the grabber would eventually be an option. But yes someone still has to stack them once in the loft. I am more concerned with getting them out of the field and back to the house where I have option of getting out of the weather if need be. If I get them back to the house and rain threating I can grab them off the truck and set them in the isle/overhang of our barn (barns when the second one is built) until the weather clears up at which point I, my wife, boarder etc. can get them moved.
Much of this thread was about relatively small fields and those of you who still want to eventually stack in the barn. A "Hay Basket" might be the solution for you. We use two of them in our 10-15 acre operation. They work well and allows you to avoid the 2nd trip to the field to stack the bunches.
Here is a link to one company:
Generation Sales - EZ Trail Bale Basket
There are no mods that need to be done on the baler either other than taking off the chute and losening the tension. You just drive the unit back to the yard and trip the lever and all the bales tumble out. A far better solution than a bale thrower in my opinion.
Our issue is now we have 25+ acres and just far too many small squares so we are custom hiring the baling of some large squares so that we can get it all off the field quickly. We also are having issues finding labor to stack back in the barns.
The ultimate solution for me would be to use our hay baskets, dump in the yard and then have a way to easily take the pile and put it into stacks for a grabber to stack in the shed.
I've looked at the Bale Band-It and that looks optimal but the cost even for a used one is ~35K. You also need a large tractor to run it.
Here is a link to one company:
Generation Sales - EZ Trail Bale Basket
There are no mods that need to be done on the baler either other than taking off the chute and losening the tension. You just drive the unit back to the yard and trip the lever and all the bales tumble out. A far better solution than a bale thrower in my opinion.
Our issue is now we have 25+ acres and just far too many small squares so we are custom hiring the baling of some large squares so that we can get it all off the field quickly. We also are having issues finding labor to stack back in the barns.
The ultimate solution for me would be to use our hay baskets, dump in the yard and then have a way to easily take the pile and put it into stacks for a grabber to stack in the shed.
I've looked at the Bale Band-It and that looks optimal but the cost even for a used one is ~35K. You also need a large tractor to run it.
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FYI; This has good information but it is a 2 year old thread
/me pokes Rwolf
An im still deciden wheather to make an stacker or a wagon mounted elevator.
I saw some plans for a side car style elevator that brings the bales to chest height of a person on the hay wagon. I think I may build one of those so that i can properly stack the wagon while the wife drives.
An im still deciden wheather to make an stacker or a wagon mounted elevator.
I saw some plans for a side car style elevator that brings the bales to chest height of a person on the hay wagon. I think I may build one of those so that i can properly stack the wagon while the wife drives.
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ATTETION zzvyb6,I spooted the bale loader that you have.The plans are under Vintage Projects Collection.also shows the photo also how to do.Also other ideas that help.
I spooted the bale loader that you have.The plans are under Vintage Projects Collection.also shows the photo also how to do.Also other ideas that help.